From di at fh-wedel.de Tue Apr 1 06:05:13 2008 From: di at fh-wedel.de (Martin Dietze) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 12:05:13 +0200 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Unable to access Mac CalDav server Message-ID: <20080401100513.GA27645@fh-wedel.de> Hi, we have got a new CalDav server on a Mac in our office. While I can access it from other calendar applications I can't using mulberry. I followed the steps listed in the wiki with no success, and I am not quite clear whether all of these steps really apply for me. Our admin gave us URLs like this: http://serverhost:8008/calendars/users/user-name/39A318CC-8841-89C-ADE7-9569373C4306/ I am not sure what to insert into the "Path" field in the options of my CalDav account settings, I thus tried both versions: /calendars/users/user-name (as described in the wiki), and /calendars/users/user-name/39A318CC-8841-89C-ADE7-9569373C4306/ Whatever I tried, I always got the reply that listing was forbidden, and no calendar was listed. For authentication I tried both, plain text and Digest-MD5, in the latter case my password was not even accepted from which I conclude that the server expects a plain text password. The HTTP-Log with auth-details enabled is appended below. Anyone got an idea what is going wrong here? Cheers, Martin --> #Logging started by Mulberry on Tue Apr 1 12:03:27 2008 --> #1 Starting HTTP Session on Tue Apr 1 12:03:32 2008: serverhost:8008 --> #1.-1213302592 Tue Apr 1 12:03:32 2008 <-------- BEGIN HTTP CONNECTION --------> Server: serverhost:8008 --> #1.-1213302592 Tue Apr 1 12:03:32 2008 <-------- BEGIN HTTP REQUEST --------> OPTIONS /calendars/users/username/39A318CC-8841-89C-ADE7-9569373C4306/ HTTP/1.1 Host: serverhost:8008 <-------- BEGIN HTTP RESPONSE --------> HTTP/1.1 401 Unauthorized Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:03:32 GMT Content-Length: 141 Content-Type: text/html WWW-Authenticate: negotiate WWW-Authenticate: digest nonce="1334326398665408398352143030", realm="/Search", algorithm="md5" Server: Twisted/2.5.0 TwistedWeb/[twisted.web2, version 0.2.0] Unauthorized

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You don't have permission to access /calendars/users/username/39A318CC-8841-89C-ADE7-9569373C4306/. <-------- END HTTP RESPONSE --------> --> #1.-1213302592 Tue Apr 1 12:03:34 2008 <-------- END HTTP CONNECTION --------> -- ----------- / http://herbert.the-little-red-haired-girl.org / ------------- =+= I now declare this bizarre open! From daboo at mulberrymail.com Tue Apr 1 09:42:03 2008 From: daboo at mulberrymail.com (Cyrus Daboo) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 09:42:03 -0400 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Unable to access Mac CalDav server In-Reply-To: <20080401100513.GA27645@fh-wedel.de> References: <20080401100513.GA27645@fh-wedel.de> Message-ID: Hi Martin, --On April 1, 2008 12:05:13 PM +0200 Martin Dietze wrote: > we have got a new CalDav server on a Mac in our office. While I > can access it from other calendar applications I can't using > mulberry. > > I followed the steps listed in the wiki with no success, and I > am not quite clear whether all of these steps really apply for > me. Our admin gave us URLs like this: > > http://serverhost:8008/calendars/users/user-name/39A318CC-8841-89C-ADE7- > 9569373C4306/ > > I am not sure what to insert into the "Path" field in the > options of my CalDav account settings, I thus tried both > versions: > > /calendars/users/user-name (as described in the wiki), and > /calendars/users/user-name/39A318CC-8841-89C-ADE7-9569373C4306/ > > Whatever I tried, I always got the reply that listing was > forbidden, and no calendar was listed. For authentication I > tried both, plain text and Digest-MD5, in the latter case my > password was not even accepted from which I conclude that the > server expects a plain text password. > > The HTTP-Log with auth-details enabled is appended below. > > Anyone got an idea what is going wrong here? The correct path for Mulberry is '/calendars/users/<>' where <> is the user id you are logging in as. Another check you can do is to use a web browser to navigate to that same location on the server. If the server is working correctly you should get prompted fro user id and password and then see a page with details of that particular directory on the server. -- Cyrus Daboo From di at fh-wedel.de Tue Apr 1 10:17:52 2008 From: di at fh-wedel.de (Martin Dietze) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:17:52 +0200 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Unable to access Mac CalDav server In-Reply-To: References: <20080401100513.GA27645@fh-wedel.de> Message-ID: <20080401141752.GI32277@fh-wedel.de> On Tue, April 01, 2008, Cyrus Daboo wrote: > The correct path for Mulberry is '/calendars/users/<>' where <> > is the user id you are logging in as. > > Another check you can do is to use a web browser to navigate to that same > location on the server. If the server is working correctly you should get > prompted fro user id and password and then see a page with details of that > particular directory on the server. Oh, I see, mulberry expects you to be the owner of the calendar you want to access? In our case this is different: the calendar's owner is our secretary and we can access it read-only by using a supplied username/password combination. Any way I can get such a setup working? Cheers, Martin -- ----------- / http://herbert.the-little-red-haired-girl.org / ------------- =+= > The Information Revolution will be fought on the command line. Und der Endsieg ist `kill -9 1`. -- Robert Lange in declc From daboo at mulberrymail.com Tue Apr 1 10:27:34 2008 From: daboo at mulberrymail.com (Cyrus Daboo) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:27:34 -0400 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Unable to access Mac CalDav server In-Reply-To: <20080401141752.GI32277@fh-wedel.de> References: <20080401100513.GA27645@fh-wedel.de> <20080401141752.GI32277@fh-wedel.de> Message-ID: Hi Martin, --On April 1, 2008 4:17:52 PM +0200 Martin Dietze wrote: >> Another check you can do is to use a web browser to navigate to that >> same location on the server. If the server is working correctly you >> should get prompted fro user id and password and then see a page with >> details of that particular directory on the server. > > Oh, I see, mulberry expects you to be the owner of the calendar > you want to access? In our case this is different: the > calendar's owner is our secretary and we can access it read-only > by using a supplied username/password combination. Any way I can > get such a setup working? No you don't have to be the owner of the calendar but you do need to have at least read access on that calendar. It sounds like the permissions have not been correctly setup on the server. If you cannot access it via a web browser then the server configuration is not right. -- Cyrus Daboo From di at fh-wedel.de Tue Apr 1 10:47:52 2008 From: di at fh-wedel.de (Martin Dietze) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:47:52 +0200 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Unable to access Mac CalDav server In-Reply-To: References: <20080401100513.GA27645@fh-wedel.de> <20080401141752.GI32277@fh-wedel.de> Message-ID: <20080401144752.GA32387@fh-wedel.de> On Tue, April 01, 2008, Cyrus Daboo wrote: > No you don't have to be the owner of the calendar but you do need to have > at least read access on that calendar. It sounds like the permissions have > not been correctly setup on the server. If you cannot access it via a web > browser then the server configuration is not right. I can access the calendars via a web browser and different calendar applications. I can click the .ics files displayed in the listing and download them, and they seem to be valid. Just to clarify things from my previous example: http://serverhost:8008/calendars/users/user-name/39A318CC-8841-89C-ADE7-9569373C4306/ The `user-name' corresponds to the calendar's owner, our secretary. The username we use does not appear in the url, it is something general like `calendar-user'. After entering the username/password combination when starting up mulberry it seems to accept it, but afterwards I still can't access any calendars. Is there anything else I could check to provide you more useful information from which you could find out what goes wrong? Cheers, Martin -- ----------- / http://herbert.the-little-red-haired-girl.org / ------------- =+= The UNIX Guru's view of Sex: unzip; strip; touch; finger; mount; fsck; more; yes; umount; sleep From daboo at mulberrymail.com Tue Apr 1 10:50:33 2008 From: daboo at mulberrymail.com (Cyrus Daboo) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:50:33 -0400 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Unable to access Mac CalDav server In-Reply-To: <20080401144752.GA32387@fh-wedel.de> References: <20080401100513.GA27645@fh-wedel.de> <20080401141752.GI32277@fh-wedel.de> <20080401144752.GA32387@fh-wedel.de> Message-ID: <1A0EB58FA8C59328888EEDE8@caldav.corp.apple.com> Hi Martin, --On April 1, 2008 4:47:52 PM +0200 Martin Dietze wrote: >> No you don't have to be the owner of the calendar but you do need to >> have at least read access on that calendar. It sounds like the >> permissions have not been correctly setup on the server. If you cannot >> access it via a web browser then the server configuration is not right. > > I can access the calendars via a web browser and different calendar > applications. I can click the .ics files displayed in the > listing and download them, and they seem to be valid. > > Just to clarify things from my previous example: > > http://serverhost:8008/calendars/users/user-name/39A318CC-8841-89C-ADE7- > 9569373C4306/ > > The `user-name' corresponds to the calendar's owner, our > secretary. The username we use does not appear in the url, it is > something general like `calendar-user'. After entering the > username/password combination when starting up mulberry it seems > to accept it, but afterwards I still can't access any calendars. > > Is there anything else I could check to provide you more useful > information from which you could find out what goes wrong? What does the Mulberry HTTP log look like now. -- Cyrus Daboo From di at fh-wedel.de Tue Apr 1 10:57:40 2008 From: di at fh-wedel.de (Martin Dietze) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:57:40 +0200 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Unable to access Mac CalDav server In-Reply-To: <1A0EB58FA8C59328888EEDE8@caldav.corp.apple.com> References: <20080401100513.GA27645@fh-wedel.de> <20080401141752.GI32277@fh-wedel.de> <20080401144752.GA32387@fh-wedel.de> <1A0EB58FA8C59328888EEDE8@caldav.corp.apple.com> Message-ID: <20080401145740.GA32529@fh-wedel.de> On Tue, April 01, 2008, Cyrus Daboo wrote: > What does the Mulberry HTTP log look like now. Exactly as the one I posted before (see below). I have not yet reconfigured anything again... Cheers, Martin --> #Logging started by Mulberry on Tue Apr 1 12:03:27 2008 --> #1 Starting HTTP Session on Tue Apr 1 12:03:32 2008: serverhost:8008 --> #1.-1213302592 Tue Apr 1 12:03:32 2008 <-------- BEGIN HTTP CONNECTION --------> Server: serverhost:8008 --> #1.-1213302592 Tue Apr 1 12:03:32 2008 <-------- BEGIN HTTP REQUEST --------> OPTIONS /calendars/users/username/39A318CC-8841-89C-ADE7-9569373C4306/ HTTP/1.1 Host: serverhost:8008 <-------- BEGIN HTTP RESPONSE --------> HTTP/1.1 401 Unauthorized Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:03:32 GMT Content-Length: 141 Content-Type: text/html WWW-Authenticate: negotiate WWW-Authenticate: digest nonce="1334326398665408398352143030", realm="/Search", algorithm="md5" Server: Twisted/2.5.0 TwistedWeb/[twisted.web2, version 0.2.0] Unauthorized

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<-------- END HTTP RESPONSE --------> --> #1.-1213036352 Tue Apr 1 17:26:35 2008 <-------- BEGIN HTTP REQUEST --------> OPTIONS /calendars/users/username/ HTTP/1.1 Host: serverhost:8008 Authorization: Digest username="calendar-user", realm="", nonce="", uri="/calendars/users/username/", qop=auth, nc=, cnonce="", response="60e2d088d394fdb1d20b6d8c1e558170" <-------- BEGIN HTTP RESPONSE --------> HTTP/1.1 401 Unauthorized Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:26:35 GMT Content-Length: 141 Content-Type: text/html WWW-Authenticate: negotiate WWW-Authenticate: digest nonce="9836203081358190204565401675", realm="/Search", algorithm="md5" Server: Twisted/2.5.0 TwistedWeb/[twisted.web2, version 0.2.0] Unauthorized

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<-------- END HTTP RESPONSE --------> From mul286 at pobox.com Sat Apr 5 14:12:53 2008 From: mul286 at pobox.com (Duncan) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 19:12:53 +0100 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] OT: IMSP Service Provider? Message-ID: Hello, I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good IMSP server service provider that works well in Mulberry? Any pointers would be gratefully appreciated. Regards, Duncan. From pwilson at apnic.net Sun Apr 6 16:57:37 2008 From: pwilson at apnic.net (Paul Wilson) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 06:57:37 +1000 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] IPv6? In-Reply-To: <20080401141752.GI32277@fh-wedel.de> References: <20080401100513.GA27645@fh-wedel.de> <20080401141752.GI32277@fh-wedel.de> Message-ID: <4980A713-1613-4893-B8C4-FF530A34E76C@apnic.net> Cyrus, Is mulberry supposed to work on an IPv6-only internet connection? I am involved in a v6-only test and have my Mac OS X (10.4.11) configured properly, with IPv4 disabled. It will access IPv6 websites (www.apnic.net, ipv6.google.com). I can access my email via IMAP/SSL using Apple Mail, which is how I'm sending this message. However, Mulberry doesn't do it. I get "Error = 64 while logging in to server." Thanks for advice. Paul. From daboo at mulberrymail.com Sun Apr 6 19:33:26 2008 From: daboo at mulberrymail.com (Cyrus Daboo) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 19:33:26 -0400 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] IPv6? In-Reply-To: <4980A713-1613-4893-B8C4-FF530A34E76C@apnic.net> References: <20080401100513.GA27645@fh-wedel.de> <20080401141752.GI32277@fh-wedel.de> <4980A713-1613-4893-B8C4-FF530A34E76C@apnic.net> Message-ID: <5092F7152B8E57C57D3DDD84@ninevah.local> Hi Paul, --On April 7, 2008 6:57:37 AM +1000 Paul Wilson wrote: > Is mulberry supposed to work on an IPv6-only internet connection? > > I am involved in a v6-only test and have my Mac OS X (10.4.11) configured > properly, with IPv4 disabled. It will access IPv6 websites > (www.apnic.net, ipv6.google.com). I can access my email via IMAP/SSL > using Apple Mail, which is how I'm sending this message. > > However, Mulberry doesn't do it. I get "Error = 64 while logging in to > server." Mulberry does not work with IPv6. There hadn't been much demand at all to have IPv6 support - just one or two people. -- Cyrus Daboo From shiva at sewingwitch.com Tue Apr 8 16:17:40 2008 From: shiva at sewingwitch.com (Kenneth Porter) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:17:40 -0700 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] IPv6? In-Reply-To: <5092F7152B8E57C57D3DDD84@ninevah.local> References: <20080401100513.GA27645@fh-wedel.de> <20080401141752.GI32277@fh-wedel.de> <4980A713-1613-4893-B8C4-FF530A34E76C@apnic.net> <5092F7152B8E57C57D3DDD84@ninevah.local> Message-ID: On Sunday, April 06, 2008 7:33 PM -0400 Cyrus Daboo wrote: > Mulberry does not work with IPv6. There hadn't been much demand at all to > have IPv6 support - just one or two people. Just an FYI: I googled for "porting to ipv6" and came up with this hit: From qumqats at outel.org Wed Apr 9 01:47:19 2008 From: qumqats at outel.org (Joel M. Baldwin) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:47:19 -0700 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] IPv6? In-Reply-To: References: <20080401100513.GA27645@fh-wedel.de> <20080401141752.GI32277@fh-wedel.de> <4980A713-1613-4893-B8C4-FF530A34E76C@apnic.net> <5092F7152B8E57C57D3DDD84@ninevah.local> Message-ID: <4A8AEF98505205E369604944@[192.168.1.20]> --On Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:17 PM -0700 Kenneth Porter wrote: > On Sunday, April 06, 2008 7:33 PM -0400 Cyrus Daboo > wrote: > >> Mulberry does not work with IPv6. There hadn't been much demand at all to >> have IPv6 support - just one or two people. > > Just an FYI: > > I googled for "porting to ipv6" and came up with this hit: > > here's my 2cents The lack of IPV6 support doesn't affect me. I don't anticipate that it will anytime soon. However I'm in the U.S.A and IPV6 has barely touched us despite me hearing about it for over 10 years. As I understand it IPV6 has made serious inroads in the rest of the world, in some places becoming ubiquitous. With Mulberry not supporting IPV6 a portion of the world has been cut off. How many people have downloaded Mulberry, couldn't get it to work, so they just gave up and went on to another client that DID work? The people that have complained may be those that are already using IPV4 Mulberry, instead of new users (who's only choice is to use IPV6). (on the other hand, it's working for me and I'm not in a position to fix it so I shouldn't be complaining too loudly) (btw: thanks for a great product!) From pwilson at apnic.net Wed Apr 9 02:06:45 2008 From: pwilson at apnic.net (Paul Wilson) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:06:45 +1000 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] IPv6? In-Reply-To: <4A8AEF98505205E369604944@[192.168.1.20]> References: <20080401100513.GA27645@fh-wedel.de> <20080401141752.GI32277@fh-wedel.de> <4980A713-1613-4893-B8C4-FF530A34E76C@apnic.net> <5092F7152B8E57C57D3DDD84@ninevah.local> <4A8AEF98505205E369604944@[192.168.1.20]> Message-ID: > The lack of IPV6 support doesn't affect me. > I don't anticipate that it will anytime soon. For email connectivity, including Mulberry, private/NAT IPv4 address space will work perfectly well. But it's hard to believe that all of your apps are so simple that this will not affect you. On current projections, ISPs will not be able to receive more IPv4 addresses from sometime in 2011. After this, it is more likely that your connection will be IPv6, or NATTed IPv4. Whether that matters to you depends on what you use the Internet for, but it will matter to a lot of people, and more as time goes on. > > However I'm in the U.S.A and IPV6 has barely touched us despite > me hearing about it for over 10 years. Yes, IPv6 has been heavily overpromoted for at least 10 years, during which time no ISP has had a need to deploy it. Unfortunately, it's become "tired, not wired". Let's remember that ISPs are businesses, and the business case for IPv6 has been non existent, and will be until a year or so from now (at which time it will quickly become not a case but an imperative). > > As I understand it IPV6 has made serious inroads in the > rest of the world, in some places becoming ubiquitous. Not at all. Global deployment is still very slow, in all parts of the world. Because of the inter-dependencies between ISPs, vendors, apps developers (like Cyrus) and users - none of whom know national or regional boundaries - this will continue until such time as the whole Internet really starts to move, probably within the next 2 years. But when it starts, it will be an interesting time. > > With Mulberry not supporting IPV6 a portion of the world has been cut off. > How many people have downloaded Mulberry, couldn't get it to work, so > they just gave up and went on to another client that DID work? The people > that have complained may be those that are already using IPV4 Mulberry, > instead of new users (who's only choice is to use IPV6). Personally, I have had to fire up the Mac Mail client for the first time, just in the past 2 days, because Mulberry did not work on the IPv6 network which was available, and I had to do some mail. As this starts to happen to others, a few years out from now, people will shift away from Mulberry, and maybe not return, unless it is ready before then. In the meantime, lists are being developed of what works with IPv6 and what doesn't, and Mulberry is appearing in the former. Some of those lists may be hard to change, even after Mulberry has been fixed. > > (on the other hand, it's working for me and I'm not in a position to > fix it so I shouldn't be complaining too loudly) > > (btw: thanks for a great product!) Ditto. Which is why I'd hate to see mulberry die just because of a pretty basic limitation which would be fixed with a few lines of code. Paul. ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC http://www.apnic.net ph/fx +61 7 3858 3100/99 From mancini at ieee.org Sat Apr 12 05:43:34 2008 From: mancini at ieee.org (Enrico G. Mancini) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:43:34 +0200 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] copy to/move to button In-Reply-To: <40FBEB2547C5A0A50D81AAAA@[192.168.2.100]> References: <40FBEB2547C5A0A50D81AAAA@[192.168.2.100]> Message-ID: <9F8AC7AB9B8FC89F35505996@[192.168.1.56]> File/Preference/Message/Options/ Check "Delete Message after Copy". Regards. --On luned? 31 marzo 2008 12.55 +0200 "Prof. Dr. F. Fiedler" wrote: > > Please help! > > in my current version of Mulberry 4.0.8 there exists the 'copy to' > mailbox-button instesd of the 'move to' button as in the version 4.0.6. There > seems to exist the possibility to interchange these two possibilities. I > would prefer the 'move to' possibility as in previous versions of Mulberry, > but I cannot find a way to change it from 'copy to' to Move to'. > Does anybody know, how that can be done? > Thanks. > F. Fiedler > ----------------------------------------------| > Prof. Dr. Franz Fiedler | > Institut f?r Meteorologie und Klimaforschung | > Universit?t Kalrsruhe | > Kaiserstrasse 12 | > D 76128 Karlsruhe | > ----------------------------------------------| > Tel. xx49-(0)721-608-3355 | > ----------------------------------------------| > Fax xx49-(0)721-608-6102 | > Email f.fiedler at phys.uni-karlsruhe.de | > ----------------------------------------------| > privat: | > auf dem Guggelensberg 20 | > 76227 Karlsruhe | > Tel.: 0721 - 41718 | > ----------------------------------------------| > -- Enrico G. Mancini Via C.Reta 2/9 sc A 16162 Genova Phone: +39 010 7404969 Phone: +39 010 9648145 Mobile: +39 348 7904039 Mailto:mancini at ieee.org