From pwilson at apnic.net Sun Jun 1 02:03:17 2008 From: pwilson at apnic.net (Paul Wilson) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 16:03:17 +1000 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Future of mulberry In-Reply-To: <94D31699F893FC3958AD0B1F@c80-216-44-178.bredband.comhem.se> References: <3DC66B4E6F298542F8861AF7@as-paul-l-1097.local> <94D31699F893FC3958AD0B1F@c80-216-44-178.bredband.comhem.se> Message-ID: <4D54A88CB57CC453A69BBA91@as-paul-l.vexwifi.com.br> > > I have no problems with offline mode. In the beginning it was very > counterintuitive but when I started to understand the design offline mode > has worked fine. What is your exact problem? First problem is that Mulberry crashes when I open "Details..." for any mailbox (which is how I would normally select a mailbox for offline viewing). So for now I can only do offline work on my Inbox. Second is that the resync often fails. i.e. I reconnect but nothing I've done offline is synced to the server. Outgoing mails are sent however. No sign of any error condition. Paul From pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com Tue Jun 3 21:17:04 2008 From: pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com (Paul Schmehl) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:17:04 -0500 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Interesting news about mulberry Message-ID: To reply - figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========28C75B55940D5379B228==========" --==========28C75B55940D5379B228========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Paul Schmehl If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. --==========28C75B55940D5379B228========== Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIIO7gYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIO3zCCDtsCAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3 DQEHAaCCDFwwggV1MIIE3qADAgECAhAn5I2H7qcRjRPTIvVqh3OhMA0GCSqGSIb3 DQEBBQUAMIHqMScwJQYDVQQKEx5UaGUgVW5pdmVyc2l0eSBvZiBUZXhhcyBTeXN0 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Paul Schmehl If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 3826 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.mulberrymail.com/pipermail/mulberry-discuss/attachments/20080603/7deca83a/attachment.bin From cpb10 at cam.ac.uk Fri Jun 6 07:58:29 2008 From: cpb10 at cam.ac.uk (Clare Bartlet) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 12:58:29 +0100 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Shared addressbook problem Message-ID: I've come across a weird bug with all versions of Mulberry from 3.1.6 to 4.0.8 on OS X both 10.4 and 10.5 We have 2 people doing a job-share and sharing one Mac, they both use Mulberry and it's set up to do clever things with identities etc so that all works very well but one thing they want is to have a shared addressbook that they can both read and write to. I made a Mulberry addressbook and put it in /Users/Shared Checked the permissions both on the addressbook and on the Shared folder so they can both write to it. It looks fine and they can both read addresses OK. They can both add individual addresses OK But if one of them tries to add a new group it doesn't appear in the groups pane although the count at the bottom of the address book window shows that a new group address has been added. However if they: save the addressbook quit Mulberry restart Mulberry (addressbook is set to open at start) new group is now visible. Has anyone else seen this? Do you know a work- around? Cyrus is it something that could be fixed?? thanks Clare -------------------------------------------- Clare Bartlet mailto:cpb10 at cam.ac.uk Macintosh Support phone: +44 1223 334723 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QH -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.mulberrymail.com/pipermail/mulberry-discuss/attachments/20080606/17d03565/attachment.html From xk3 at mompl.org Sun Jun 8 16:23:16 2008 From: xk3 at mompl.org (Martin) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:23:16 +0200 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] address lookup to slapd linked with gnuTLS Message-ID: Hi all, I was just forced to upgrade my slapd to debian/2.4.9-1, which broke my mulberry 4.0.8 (win32) looking up contacts via ldaps. This new slapd is linked to gnuTLS instead of openssl, and mulberry does not succeed with its SSLv3 handshake anymore. It teminates with the error: can?t contact LDAP server. Mulbery error log is appended. I installed stunnel4 to bridge between mulberry and slap (without ssl), but I have to allow ALL protocols SSLv2, SSLv3, and TLSv1 in stunnel.conf to get the tunnel working for mulberry (not so for, e.g., ldapsearch). If I only allow SSLv3 or TLSv1, same error message for mulberry as with slapd doing its own SSLv3. If stunnel offers mulberry only SSLv2, everything works, but I have security concerns against SSLv2. Just a guess: could it be, that mulberry _needs_ the SSLv2 offer, although it will choose SSLv3 afterwards if possible (at least according to stunnel logs)? Martin --> #1 Starting Exception Session on Sun Jun 8 18:05:49 2008: Application startup Throw: Sun Jun 8 18:06:00 2008 TID: 3280 0xcd0 Type: CINETClient::CINETException Errno: 709775136 0x2a4e4f20 Function: Lookup File: CLDAPClient.cp,403 Throw: Sun Jun 8 18:06:00 2008 TID: 3280 0xcd0 Type: !std::exception!!CNetworkException!!CINETClient::CINETException!! Errno: 7029262 0x6b420e Function: ExX86_User_ThrowHandler File: 0012F5CC 00677B53 0012F7F0 00000004 00000000 0012F62C 0012F608 00677C93 00000002 00000001 0012F7F0 00000004 0012F640 0057375B 0012F7F0 0012F684 02793818 CCCCCCCC 0012F698 00572D5A 0012F7F0 0012F7E0 02793818 CCCCCCCC 0012F808 00572A40 02793FC0 02793818 02793978 CCCCCC00 ,0 -Catch: Sun Jun 8 18:06:00 2008 TID: 3280 0xcd0 Type: ... Function: Lookup File: CLDAPClient.cp,655 --Rethrow: Sun Jun 8 18:06:00 2008 TID: 3280 0xcd0 Function: Lookup File: CLDAPClient.cp,701 Throw: Sun Jun 8 18:06:00 2008 TID: 3280 0xcd0 Type: rethrow Errno: 7033408 0x6b5240 Function: ExX86_User_ThrowHandler File: 0012F5CC 00677B53 0012F7F0 00000004 00000000 0012F62C 0012F608 00677C93 00000002 00000001 0012F7F0 00000004 0012F640 0057375B 0012F7F0 0012F684 02793818 CCCCCCCC 0012F698 00572D5A 0012F7F0 0012F7E0 02793818 CCCCCCCC 0012F808 00572A40 02793FC0 02793818 02793978 CCCCCC00 ,0 -Catch: Sun Jun 8 18:06:00 2008 TID: 3280 0xcd0 Type: ... Function: OnKillFocus File: CAddressDisplay.cp,92 Throw: Sun Jun 8 18:26:07 2008 TID: 3280 0xcd0 Type: CINETClient::CINETException Errno: 709775136 0x2a4e4f20 Function: Lookup File: CLDAPClient.cp,403 Throw: Sun Jun 8 18:26:07 2008 TID: 3280 0xcd0 Type: !std::exception!!CNetworkException!!CINETClient::CINETException!! Errno: 7029262 0x6b420e Function: ExX86_User_ThrowHandler File: 0012F5CC 00677B53 0012F7F0 00000004 00000000 0012F62C 0012F608 00677C93 00000002 00000001 0012F7F0 00000004 0012F640 0057375B 0012F7F0 0012F684 02793818 CCCCCCCC 0012F698 00572D5A 0012F7F0 0012F7E0 02793818 CCCCCCCC 0012F808 00572A40 02793FC0 02793818 02793978 CCCCCC00 ,0 -Catch: Sun Jun 8 18:26:07 2008 TID: 3280 0xcd0 Type: ... Function: Lookup File: CLDAPClient.cp,655 --Rethrow: Sun Jun 8 18:26:07 2008 TID: 3280 0xcd0 Function: Lookup File: CLDAPClient.cp,701 Throw: Sun Jun 8 18:26:07 2008 TID: 3280 0xcd0 Type: rethrow Errno: 7033408 0x6b5240 Function: ExX86_User_ThrowHandler File: 0012F5CC 00677B53 0012F7F0 00000004 00000000 0012F62C 0012F608 00677C93 00000002 00000001 0012F7F0 00000004 0012F640 0057375B 0012F7F0 0012F684 02793818 CCCCCCCC 0012F698 00572D5A 0012F7F0 0012F7E0 02793818 CCCCCCCC 0012F808 00572A40 02793FC0 02793818 02793978 CCCCCC00 ,0 -Catch: Sun Jun 8 18:26:07 2008 TID: 3280 0xcd0 Type: ... Function: OnKillFocus File: CAddressDisplay.cp,92 --> #1 Stopping Exception Session on Sun Jun 8 18:27:15 2008 From quanah at fast-mail.org Mon Jun 9 16:20:42 2008 From: quanah at fast-mail.org (Quanah Gibson-Mount) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:20:42 -0700 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] address lookup to slapd linked with gnuTLS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: --On June 8, 2008 10:23:16 PM +0200 Martin wrote: > Hi all, > > I was just forced to upgrade my slapd to debian/2.4.9-1, which broke my > mulberry 4.0.8 (win32) looking up contacts via ldaps. > > This new slapd is linked to gnuTLS instead of openssl, and mulberry does > not succeed with its SSLv3 handshake anymore. It teminates with the > error: can?t contact LDAP server. Mulbery error log is appended. > > > I installed stunnel4 to bridge between mulberry and slap (without ssl), > but I have to allow ALL protocols SSLv2, SSLv3, and TLSv1 in stunnel.conf > to get the tunnel working for mulberry (not so for, e.g., ldapsearch). If > I only allow SSLv3 or TLSv1, same error message for mulberry as with > slapd doing its own SSLv3. If stunnel offers mulberry only SSLv2, > everything works, but I have security concerns against SSLv2. If you have security concerns, then I advise not using Debian's build of OpenLDAP. --Quanah From r055 at imap4u.com Tue Jun 10 03:24:29 2008 From: r055 at imap4u.com (Ross) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:24:29 -0700 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Mulberry Community Forums Message-ID: What does everyone think about having a "Mulberry Community Forum"? The mailing lists are fine for a few things but to be honest I believe a forum would be much more efficient and useful. Just my two bits for what it's worth ...... From Hagedorn at uni-koeln.de Tue Jun 10 04:15:58 2008 From: Hagedorn at uni-koeln.de (Sebastian Hagedorn) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:15:58 +0200 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Mulberry Community Forums In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <017A841A8B955B14E71561A4@tyrion.rrz.uni-koeln.de> --On 10. Juni 2008 00:24:29 -0700 Ross wrote: > What does everyone think about having a "Mulberry Community Forum"? FWIW: I wouldn't use it. > The > mailing lists are fine for a few things but to be honest I believe a > forum would be much more efficient and useful. To me it seems very counterintuitive to use a *web* forum for an *e-mail* client. A mailing list is the natural approach and I don't miss anything. -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Geb?ude 52), Zimmer 18.:. Zentrum f?r angewandte Informatik - Universit?tsweiter Service RRZK .:.Universit?t zu K?ln / Cologne University - ? +49-221-478-5587.:. .:.:.:.Skype: shagedorn.:.:.:. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 186 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.mulberrymail.com/pipermail/mulberry-discuss/attachments/20080610/fed433b1/attachment.bin From dmz-lists at tffenterprises.com Tue Jun 10 04:23:28 2008 From: dmz-lists at tffenterprises.com (Daniel M. Zimmerman) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:23:28 -0700 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Mulberry Community Forums In-Reply-To: <017A841A8B955B14E71561A4@tyrion.rrz.uni-koeln.de> References: <017A841A8B955B14E71561A4@tyrion.rrz.uni-koeln.de> Message-ID: <31C142938B430965F08EDEC3@babylon3.tffenterprises.com> --On 10 June 2008 10:15:58 +0200 Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > --On 10. Juni 2008 00:24:29 -0700 Ross wrote: > >> What does everyone think about having a "Mulberry Community Forum"? > > FWIW: I wouldn't use it. Ditto. >> The >> mailing lists are fine for a few things but to be honest I believe a >> forum would be much more efficient and useful. > > To me it seems very counterintuitive to use a *web* forum for an *e-mail* > client. A mailing list is the natural approach and I don't miss anything. Agreed. Plus, it's not as though our volume of messages is particularly high (so as to be a burden in the inbox). I'm not quite sure what is meant by "more efficient and useful"... in what way is the mailing list not efficient? Would being able to view the discussion on the web (by making an RSS feed out of them, for instance) be more efficient? I imagine that can be easily arranged, if people want to see it... -Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Daniel M. Zimmerman TFF Enterprises 1900 Commerce St. Box 358426 http://www.tffenterprises.com/ Tacoma, Washington 98402 USA dmz at tffenterprises.com From sombrero at mm.st Tue Jun 10 08:17:38 2008 From: sombrero at mm.st (Gleason Pace) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:17:38 -0400 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Mulberry Community Forums In-Reply-To: <31C142938B430965F08EDEC3@babylon3.tffenterprises.com> References: <017A841A8B955B14E71561A4@tyrion.rrz.uni-koeln.de> <31C142938B430965F08EDEC3@babylon3.tffenterprises.com> Message-ID: <1471727472.20080610081738@mm.st> Daniel, > Agreed. Plus, it's not as though our volume of messages is particularly > high (so as to be a burden in the inbox). > I'm not quite sure what is meant by "more efficient and useful"... in what > way is the mailing list not efficient? The web interface is attractive to new users because you don't need to know anything to use it. It works right away just like it is. And if a problem should develop, somebody else fixes it, pronto. Some interfaces provide a few tweaks for diehard geeks but these can be successfully ignored and usually are. And so the email client went the way of the dinosaur. It is interesting to me that some people who want to talk about email clients don't find it efficient and useful to use them. > Would being able to view the > discussion on the web (by making an RSS feed out of them, for instance) be > more efficient? I imagine that can be easily arranged, if people want to > see it... -- Gleason From korenman at umbc.edu Tue Jun 10 09:10:16 2008 From: korenman at umbc.edu (Joan Korenman) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:10:16 -0400 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Mulberry Community Forums In-Reply-To: <017A841A8B955B14E71561A4@tyrion.rrz.uni-koeln.de> References: <017A841A8B955B14E71561A4@tyrion.rrz.uni-koeln.de> Message-ID: <9238E24642F75CBA29C0AB99@[192.168.1.100]> --On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:15 AM +0200 Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > To me it seems very counterintuitive to use a *web* forum for an *e-mail* > client. A mailing list is the natural approach and I don't miss anything. I normally try to avoid "me too" messages, but in this case, I feel it's probably useful to support what Sebastian has said. The last thing I'd want is another place to have to check for discussion. I find the Mulberry email forum convenient, helpful, and easy to use. Joan Joan Korenman, Founding Director Center for Women & Information Technology University of Maryland, Baltimore County Baltimore, MD 21250 USA korenman AT umbc.edu http://www.umbc.edu/cwit/ From frysinsp at jmu.edu Fri Jun 13 03:44:49 2008 From: frysinsp at jmu.edu (Dr. Steven P. Frysinger) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 03:44:49 -0400 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] A dream! Message-ID: Wow - this is literally a dream! I've been using Mulberry since the late '90s, first from my university, then buying it after they stopped using it. When I switched to an iBook I was horrified to learn the company had gone under. Fortunately, UVa still had it available for Mac OS. Yesterday I learned I will (finally) be able to switch my desktop from an MS machine to an iMac - but then realized that this might mean I can't use Mulberry (assuming the pPC executable wouldn't run on an Intel-Mac). Overnight I had a dream that Mulberry had gone open source and was still available. I woke up and - BAM! - find that it's actually true! So, already my first question: I see there's one downloadable .dmg file for MacOS, whereas I expected there would have to be different versions for pPC and Intel. Am I wrong about this? If not, which machine does this .dmg target? Glad to have found this community! Steve ******************************************** Steven P. Frysinger, Ph.D. Professor, Integrated Science and Technology Department Computer Science Department Director, Environmental Information Systems Program Environmental Management Program Center for Environment, Health and Safety James Madison University College of Integrated Science and Technology ISAT/CS Room 309 701 Carrier Drive - MSC 4102 Harrisonburg, Virginia 22807 United States of America Tel: 540/568-2710 Fax: 540/568-2768 Net: frysinsp at jmu.edu Web: http://www.isat.jmu.edu/faculty/frysinger.html --------------------- Gastprofessor, Fachbereiche GIS und Maschinenbau Environmental Informatics Group (EIG) Hochschule f?r Technik und Wirtschaft (HTW) des Saarlandes Goebenstra?e 40 66117 Saarbr?cken Germany Cell: +49 (0)175 955 2303 Tel: +49 (0)681 876 5665 Net: Steven.Frysinger at enviromatics.net From dmz-lists at tffenterprises.com Fri Jun 13 04:03:19 2008 From: dmz-lists at tffenterprises.com (Daniel M. Zimmerman) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:03:19 -0700 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] A dream! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6F077D06FA0F2CE8C8241AFD@whitestar.local> --On 13 June 2008 03:44:49 -0400 "Dr. Steven P. Frysinger" wrote: > I see there's one downloadable .dmg file for MacOS, whereas I expected > there would have to be different versions for pPC and Intel. Am I wrong > about this? If not, which machine does this .dmg target? It's a Universal binary, it will work with either architecture. -Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Daniel M. Zimmerman TFF Enterprises 1900 Commerce St. Box 358426 http://www.tffenterprises.com/~dmz/ Tacoma, WA 98402 USA dmz at tffenterprises.com From davidbo at kth.se Sat Jun 14 15:21:34 2008 From: davidbo at kth.se (david) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:21:34 +0200 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Mulberry Community Forums In-Reply-To: <017A841A8B955B14E71561A4@tyrion.rrz.uni-koeln.de> References: <017A841A8B955B14E71561A4@tyrion.rrz.uni-koeln.de> Message-ID: <90D77C7C1BC4BF72FBA2CAAE@c80-216-44-178.bredband.comhem.se> --On 2008-06-10 10.15 +0200 Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > To me it seems very counterintuitive to use a *web* forum for an *e-mail* > client. A mailing list is the natural approach and I don't miss anything. Put that way, from a language perspective, it might seem counterintuitive, however, it is not. If I had to subscribe to a maiinglist for every thing/subject I from time to time needed to find a solution for I guess I would need close to a thousand filters to sort all data and I would at the end of the day still be forced to use my e-mail clients, compared to Google, less than satisfying search capacity. Web forums or usenet groups requires a far smaller commitment to participate passively in (that is, finding a thread that already discussed the matter I am interested in) which is a major advantage for the casual user. But don't take my word for it, just look out on the world (which I think especially mr Hagedorn should do a little more often) of electronical fora from an evolutionary perspective and see where the growth is. I think the way GMane/Google Groups tackles this is the future, where it is up to the user whether they want to access the forum via NNTP, e-mail, web, rss etc -- Visit the Mulberry IRC-channel irc://irc.freenode.net/mulberry From sombrero at mm.st Sat Jun 14 15:33:58 2008 From: sombrero at mm.st (Gleason Pace) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:33:58 -0400 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Mulberry Community Forums In-Reply-To: <90D77C7C1BC4BF72FBA2CAAE@c80-216-44-178.bredband.comhem.se> References: <017A841A8B955B14E71561A4@tyrion.rrz.uni-koeln.de> <90D77C7C1BC4BF72FBA2CAAE@c80-216-44-178.bredband.comhem.se> Message-ID: <02344095.20080614153358@mm.st> David, > I think the way GMane/Google Groups tackles this is the future, where it is > up to the user whether they want to access the forum via NNTP, e-mail, web, > rss etc This does seem to be unfortunately true. But not because an email client (like Thunderbird) can't do it all. What interest do you have in email clilents? -- Gleason From shiva at sewingwitch.com Tue Jun 17 14:14:30 2008 From: shiva at sewingwitch.com (Kenneth Porter) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:14:30 -0700 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Mulberry Community Forums In-Reply-To: <90D77C7C1BC4BF72FBA2CAAE@c80-216-44-178.bredband.comhem.se> References: <017A841A8B955B14E71561A4@tyrion.rrz.uni-koeln.de> <90D77C7C1BC4BF72FBA2CAAE@c80-216-44-178.bredband.comhem.se> Message-ID: <9625B3B9C3AA1F3038B62050@[10.170.7.6]> --On Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:21 PM +0200 david wrote: > at the end of the day still be forced to use my e-mail clients, compared > to Google, less than satisfying search capacity. You should be able to point Google at the Mulberry list archives. Example: I'm not sure why it doesn't pick up this thread, though. I'm archiving all messages to a server folder, and I can shell in and open the folder in my text editor and search it, as well as grep it. A bit more sophisticated than Google. From frysinsp at jmu.edu Thu Jun 19 15:05:52 2008 From: frysinsp at jmu.edu (Dr. Steven P. Frysinger) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:05:52 -0400 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Two Mulberry questions Message-ID: <927DAADDA444DA920AAA8F6E@steven-frysingers-ibook-g4.local> Just updated (and glad to have Mulberry back in the world! :). First, it seems my spelling dictionary changes were lost. Did I do something wrong, or is this a side effect of the upgrade to the newer version? Second, the account into which I'm logged periodically times out - I can click on INBOX and it comes back, without needing a password. But if I send a message while it's in this state, it sends the message but can't do things like put it in the Sent folder. Any suggestions? Thanks! Steve ******************************************** Steven P. Frysinger, Ph.D. Professor, Integrated Science and Technology Department Computer Science Department Director, Environmental Information Systems Program Environmental Management Program Center for Environment, Health and Safety James Madison University College of Integrated Science and Technology ISAT/CS Room 309 701 Carrier Drive - MSC 4102 Harrisonburg, Virginia 22807 United States of America Tel: 540/568-2710 Fax: 540/568-2768 Net: frysinsp at jmu.edu Web: http://www.isat.jmu.edu/faculty/frysinger.html --------------------- Gastprofessor, Fachbereiche GIS und Maschinenbau Environmental Informatics Group (EIG) Hochschule f?r Technik und Wirtschaft (HTW) des Saarlandes Goebenstra?e 40 66117 Saarbr?cken Germany Cell: +49 (0)175 955 2303 Tel: +49 (0)681 876 5665 Net: Steven.Frysinger at enviromatics.net From Hagedorn at uni-koeln.de Thu Jun 19 15:38:56 2008 From: Hagedorn at uni-koeln.de (Sebastian Hagedorn) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:38:56 +0200 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Two Mulberry questions In-Reply-To: <927DAADDA444DA920AAA8F6E@steven-frysingers-ibook-g4.local> References: <927DAADDA444DA920AAA8F6E@steven-frysingers-ibook-g4.local> Message-ID: -- "Dr. Steven P. Frysinger" is rumored to have mumbled on 19. Juni 2008 15:05:52 -0400 regarding [Mulberry-discuss] Two Mulberry questions: > Just updated (and glad to have Mulberry back in the world! :). > > First, it seems my spelling dictionary changes were lost. Did I do > something wrong, or is this a side effect of the upgrade to the newer > version? I'm not sure, because I don't use the dictionary. > Second, the account into which I'm logged periodically times out - I can > click on INBOX and it comes back, without needing a password. But if I > send a message while it's in this state, it sends the message but can't > do things like put it in the Sent folder. Any suggestions? Learn to live with it :-) Seriously, this was introduced by some change. If the connection to your server is interrupted for whatever reason, auto-connect doesn't work as well as in previous versions. When that happens to me, and it happens quite often because my cable provider disconnects all sessions twice a day, I quit and restart Mulberry. That's certainly not ideal, but as you noticed weird things happen if you don't do it like that. -- Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Flachbau), Zi. 18, Robert-Koch-Str. 10 Zentrum f?r angewandte Informatik - Universit?tsweiter Service RRZK Universit?t zu K?ln / Cologne University - Tel. +49-221-478-5587 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 194 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.mulberrymail.com/pipermail/mulberry-discuss/attachments/20080619/26bb6414/attachment.bin From frysinsp at jmu.edu Thu Jun 19 15:42:13 2008 From: frysinsp at jmu.edu (Dr. Steven P. Frysinger) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:42:13 -0400 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Another Mulberry question Message-ID: Okay, so I thought I only had two... I would like to use Mulberry as my client to manage multiple accounts (e.g. my university account, my research group in Europe, &c). This is REALLY easy to set up in Mac OSX Mail, but Mac's Addressbook is as braindead as the rest (i.e. you can't create groups without first entering each member in the book as a contact, and you can't have hierarchical groups). These are the two main features of Mulberry (and, BTW, PINE) that I need. So I'd like to make Mulberry my one-stop email client. But I'm not clear on how Mulberry will manage multiple, separate accounts, and I'll admit that I'm a little afraid to experiment, depending as I do on the system working for my "main" account (as it does now). Any guidance, assurances, or incantations will be appreciated. Thanks! Steve ******************************************** Steven P. Frysinger, Ph.D. Professor, Integrated Science and Technology Department Computer Science Department Director, Environmental Information Systems Program Environmental Management Program Center for Environment, Health and Safety James Madison University College of Integrated Science and Technology ISAT/CS Room 309 701 Carrier Drive - MSC 4102 Harrisonburg, Virginia 22807 United States of America Tel: 540/568-2710 Fax: 540/568-2768 Net: frysinsp at jmu.edu Web: http://www.isat.jmu.edu/faculty/frysinger.html --------------------- Gastprofessor, Fachbereiche GIS und Maschinenbau Environmental Informatics Group (EIG) Hochschule f?r Technik und Wirtschaft (HTW) des Saarlandes Goebenstra?e 40 66117 Saarbr?cken Germany Cell: +49 (0)175 955 2303 Tel: +49 (0)681 876 5665 Net: Steven.Frysinger at enviromatics.net From frysinsp at jmu.edu Thu Jun 19 15:43:05 2008 From: frysinsp at jmu.edu (Dr. Steven P. Frysinger) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:43:05 -0400 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Another Mulberry question Message-ID: Okay, so I thought I only had two... I would like to use Mulberry as my client to manage multiple accounts (e.g. my university account, my research group in Europe, &c). This is REALLY easy to set up in Mac OSX Mail, but Mac's Addressbook is as braindead as the rest (i.e. you can't create groups without first entering each member in the book as a contact, and you can't have hierarchical groups). These are the two main features of Mulberry (and, BTW, PINE) that I need. So I'd like to make Mulberry my one-stop email client. But I'm not clear on how Mulberry will manage multiple, separate accounts, and I'll admit that I'm a little afraid to experiment, depending as I do on the system working for my "main" account (as it does now). Any guidance, assurances, or incantations will be appreciated. Thanks! Steve ******************************************** Steven P. Frysinger, Ph.D. Professor, Integrated Science and Technology Department Computer Science Department Director, Environmental Information Systems Program Environmental Management Program Center for Environment, Health and Safety James Madison University College of Integrated Science and Technology ISAT/CS Room 309 701 Carrier Drive - MSC 4102 Harrisonburg, Virginia 22807 United States of America Tel: 540/568-2710 Fax: 540/568-2768 Net: frysinsp at jmu.edu Web: http://www.isat.jmu.edu/faculty/frysinger.html --------------------- Gastprofessor, Fachbereiche GIS und Maschinenbau Environmental Informatics Group (EIG) Hochschule f?r Technik und Wirtschaft (HTW) des Saarlandes Goebenstra?e 40 66117 Saarbr?cken Germany Cell: +49 (0)175 955 2303 Tel: +49 (0)681 876 5665 Net: Steven.Frysinger at enviromatics.net From frysinsp at jmu.edu Thu Jun 19 15:43:55 2008 From: frysinsp at jmu.edu (Dr. Steven P. Frysinger) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:43:55 -0400 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Another Mulberry question Message-ID: <98BB9991B62F3CF7529D0A71@steven-frysingers-ibook-g4.local> Okay, so I thought I only had two... I would like to use Mulberry as my client to manage multiple accounts (e.g. my university account, my research group in Europe, &c). This is REALLY easy to set up in Mac OSX Mail, but Mac's Addressbook is as braindead as the rest (i.e. you can't create groups without first entering each member in the book as a contact, and you can't have hierarchical groups). These are the two main features of Mulberry (and, BTW, PINE) that I need. So I'd like to make Mulberry my one-stop email client. But I'm not clear on how Mulberry will manage multiple, separate accounts, and I'll admit that I'm a little afraid to experiment, depending as I do on the system working for my "main" account (as it does now). Any guidance, assurances, or incantations will be appreciated. Thanks! Steve ******************************************** Steven P. Frysinger, Ph.D. Professor, Integrated Science and Technology Department Computer Science Department Director, Environmental Information Systems Program Environmental Management Program Center for Environment, Health and Safety James Madison University College of Integrated Science and Technology ISAT/CS Room 309 701 Carrier Drive - MSC 4102 Harrisonburg, Virginia 22807 United States of America Tel: 540/568-2710 Fax: 540/568-2768 Net: frysinsp at jmu.edu Web: http://www.isat.jmu.edu/faculty/frysinger.html --------------------- Gastprofessor, Fachbereiche GIS und Maschinenbau Environmental Informatics Group (EIG) Hochschule f?r Technik und Wirtschaft (HTW) des Saarlandes Goebenstra?e 40 66117 Saarbr?cken Germany Cell: +49 (0)175 955 2303 Tel: +49 (0)681 876 5665 Net: Steven.Frysinger at enviromatics.net From dave at scocca.org Thu Jun 19 15:53:18 2008 From: dave at scocca.org (Dave Scocca) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:53:18 -0400 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Another Mulberry question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: --On 6/19/2008 3:42 PM -0400 Dr. Steven P. Frysinger wrote: > Okay, so I thought I only had two... > > I would like to use Mulberry as my client to manage multiple accounts > (e.g. my university account, my research group in Europe, &c). This is > REALLY easy to set up in Mac OSX Mail,[...] > > But I'm not clear on how Mulberry will manage multiple, separate > accounts,[...] Very easily. Just go into Preferences--with the "Advanced" mode set--and to the "Accounts" tab. The "Accounts" popup will let you choose "New..." to add an additional account--you can specify IMAP, local, or POP. (You can also add LDAP and SMTP accounts here as well.) The only trick I ever needed was that if you have multiple accounts with the same userID, you want to keep the "Match User ID and Password" checkbox turned OFF. All your accounts will show up in the "Servers" window; you can drag them around there to re-order them as you wish. I have five or six accounts set up on Mulberry, and it works like a charm. Dave From pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com Thu Jun 19 17:31:53 2008 From: pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com (Paul Schmehl) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:31:53 -0500 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Another Mulberry question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6BCE56D8B7C93849E822C405@utd65257.utdallas.edu> --On Thursday, June 19, 2008 15:42:13 -0400 "Dr. Steven P. Frysinger" wrote: > Okay, so I thought I only had two... > > I would like to use Mulberry as my client to manage multiple accounts (e.g. > my university account, my research group in Europe, &c). This is REALLY easy > to set up in Mac OSX Mail, but Mac's Addressbook is as braindead as the rest > (i.e. you can't create groups without first entering each member in the book > as a contact, and you can't have hierarchical groups). These are the two main > features of Mulberry (and, BTW, PINE) that I need. So I'd like to make > Mulberry my one-stop email client. You can create groups without adding people to your contact list. Just click on Add in the Group window and type in (or paste in) a list email addresses, one per line. I don't know what you mean by "hierarchical groups". Do you mean groups within groups? > > But I'm not clear on how Mulberry will manage multiple, separate accounts, > and I'll admit that I'm a little afraid to experiment, depending as I do on > the system working for my "main" account (as it does now). > At present I have six separate accounts in Mulberry: 1) Main work account - Exchange/imap 2) Security Office account - cyrus/imap 3) Special account for list subscriptions only - ISP/pop 4) Personal account - ISP/pop 5) "Geek" account - imaps Each account has its own tree in the accounts pane, yet every account's subscribed folders show up under New Messages when there are new messages present. Each account is configurable with regard to login at startup, what hierarchy separators to use, whether or not it uses SSL or TLS or some other sort of encryption (or no encryption at all) and what identity it is tied to. (I have seven different identities. No other email client that I know of will put pop accounts in their own folder. All of them stuff every pop account's emails into "Inbox". I think you can be fully confident that Mulberry will do exactly what you want it to do with each account without affecting any of the other tools you use to access the same accounts. -- Paul Schmehl As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. From D.Nash at its.utexas.edu Thu Jun 19 19:15:19 2008 From: D.Nash at its.utexas.edu (Donald Nash) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:15:19 -0500 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Two Mulberry questions In-Reply-To: <927DAADDA444DA920AAA8F6E@steven-frysingers-ibook-g4.local> References: <927DAADDA444DA920AAA8F6E@steven-frysingers-ibook-g4.local> Message-ID: --On June 19, 2008 3:05:52 PM -0400 "Dr. Steven P. Frysinger" wrote: > First, it seems my spelling dictionary changes were lost. Did I do > something wrong, or is this a side effect of the upgrade to the newer > version? I believe it's the latter. Like you, I use Mulberry on OS X, and I've seen the same effect myself every time I upgrade. I think the custom dictionary is stored in the application bundle. -- Donald L. Nash, Information Technology Services, The University of Texas at Austin From A.Clews at sussex.ac.uk Fri Jun 20 04:05:07 2008 From: A.Clews at sussex.ac.uk (Andy Clews) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:05:07 +0100 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Two Mulberry questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <86809698A507299CB1482456@cssp000563.staff.uscs.susx.ac.uk> On 6/19/2008 3:42 PM -0400 Dr. Steven P. Frysinger wrote: > I would like to use Mulberry as my client to manage multiple accounts > (e.g. my university account, my research group in Europe, &c). > [...] > Any guidance, assurances, or incantations will be appreciated. You might like to look at an illustrated Guide on our website that I wrote for using what we call "role-based accounts". This describes setting up multiple accounts in Mulberry. It should be easy to use the information to suit your own circumstances: (Ignore, or skim through the beginning, and go to the section headed 'Setting up Mulberry to use a Role-based Account' - item 4 in the contents list). Note that it assumes the use of Mulberry 3.1.6, but I don't think Mulberry 4 will be much different. Hope that helps. Andy -- Andy Clews Email Services Support Manager, University of Sussex IT Services A.Clews at sussex.ac.uk Falmer, BRIGHTON BN1 9QJ, U.K. From davidbo at kth.se Fri Jun 20 04:41:10 2008 From: davidbo at kth.se (david) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:41:10 +0200 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Certificate Message-ID: Why doesn't Mulberry Mac accept the certificate that mail.dsv.su.se presents? -- Visit the Mulberry IRC-channel irc://irc.freenode.net/mulberry From mailinglists at nierenschaden.de Fri Jun 20 06:09:45 2008 From: mailinglists at nierenschaden.de (=?UTF-8?Q?Jens_D=C3=B6nhoff?=) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:09:45 +0200 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Certificate Message-ID: <41FB334204705951B81D6E43@[10.17.76.212]> --On Friday, June 20, 2008 10:41:10 AM +0200 david wrote: > Why doesn't Mulberry Mac accept the certificate that mail.dsv.su.se > presents? Probably because Mulberry does not trust its certificate's issuing certificate authorities. You can change trust of certificates by adding them to Preferences -> Security -> Manage Certificates -> Authorities. Greetings, Jens From davidbo at kth.se Sat Jun 21 18:00:21 2008 From: davidbo at kth.se (david) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:00:21 +0200 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Certificate In-Reply-To: <41FB334204705951B81D6E43@[10.17.76.212]> References: <41FB334204705951B81D6E43@[10.17.76.212]> Message-ID: --On 2008-06-20 12.09 +0200 Jens D?nhoff wrote: > Probably because Mulberry does not trust its certificate's issuing > certificate authorities. You can change trust of certificates by adding > them to Preferences -> Security -> Manage Certificates -> Authorities. I have the right certicate there (Globalsign Root CA) but Mulberry still refuses to accept the certificate for mail.dsv.su.se. Any further suggestions? -- Visit the Mulberry IRC-channel irc://irc.freenode.net/mulberry From mailinglists at nierenschaden.de Sun Jun 22 03:45:18 2008 From: mailinglists at nierenschaden.de (=?UTF-8?Q?Jens_D=C3=B6nhoff?=) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 09:45:18 +0200 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Certificate In-Reply-To: References: <41FB334204705951B81D6E43@[10.17.76.212]> Message-ID: <36755F49E06BFDEAE9740552@[10.17.76.212]> --On Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:00:21 AM +0200 david wrote: > I have the right certicate there (Globalsign Root CA) but Mulberry > still refuses to accept the certificate for mail.dsv.su.se. Any > further suggestions? You actually need all certificates of the chain; in your case the intermediate authority certificate with the subject DN "/C=BE/O=Cybertrust/OU=Educational CA/CN=Cybertrust Educational CA" might be missing. Greetings, Jens From davidbo at kth.se Sun Jun 22 12:35:44 2008 From: davidbo at kth.se (david) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:35:44 +0200 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Future of mulberry In-Reply-To: <4D54A88CB57CC453A69BBA91@as-paul-l.vexwifi.com.br> References: <3DC66B4E6F298542F8861AF7@as-paul-l-1097.local> <94D31699F893FC3958AD0B1F@c80-216-44-178.bredband.comhem.se> <4D54A88CB57CC453A69BBA91@as-paul-l.vexwifi.com.br> Message-ID: <34BE3997EB995487DE1D43A1@c80-216-44-178.bredband.comhem.se> --On 2008-06-01 16.03 +1000 Paul Wilson wrote: > First problem is that Mulberry crashes when I open "Details..." for any > mailbox (which is how I would normally select a mailbox for offline > viewing). Try creating a cabinet with the mailboxes you usually want to sync for offline viewing (I have two cabinets for this purpose, one which I sync when I am on a broadband connection and another, very limited I sync when I use GPRS) and see if that helps. I didn't even know you could select that in the details for the mailbox; what is the purpose with that setting? -- Visit the Mulberry IRC-channel irc://irc.freenode.net/mulberry From cowen at math.buffalo.edu Mon Jun 30 15:14:13 2008 From: cowen at math.buffalo.edu (Michael J. Cowen) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:14:13 -0400 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Can't download Mulberry 4.0.8 Message-ID: <7B37EB8646B115E0A1685CBE@grassmann.math.buffalo.edu> When I try to download Mulberry v4.0.8.dmg I get a window full of text instead of the download window in Firefox 2.0.0.14 and the download fails. I'm on an imac G5 with os 10.5.3; same happens with 10.4.11. Thanks, Michael Cowen Michael J. Cowen Dept. of Mathematics cowen at math.buffalo.edu From daboo at mulberrymail.com Mon Jun 30 15:18:04 2008 From: daboo at mulberrymail.com (Cyrus Daboo) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:18:04 -0400 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Can't download Mulberry 4.0.8 In-Reply-To: <7B37EB8646B115E0A1685CBE@grassmann.math.buffalo.edu> References: <7B37EB8646B115E0A1685CBE@grassmann.math.buffalo.edu> Message-ID: <0308D33B4B92D47EE5F77C3B@caldav.corp.apple.com> Hi Michael, --On June 30, 2008 3:14:13 PM -0400 "Michael J. Cowen" wrote: > When I try to download Mulberry v4.0.8.dmg I get a window full of text > instead of the download window in Firefox 2.0.0.14 and the download > fails. I'm on an imac G5 with os 10.5.3; same happens with 10.4.11. Looks like there is a file type problem on the server. For now, try ctrl-clicking on the link and use the "Download as file" option. If it downloads with a .html extension, remove that so that the file only has .dmg at the end. -- Cyrus Daboo