From loobyloo at loobynet.co.uk Sun Mar 2 04:08:47 2008 From: loobyloo at loobynet.co.uk (Cliff Laine) Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 09:08:47 +0000 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Rejecting unsent messages - not simply copying them to a folder Message-ID: <8A3A353CC23F7326AB9B9B03@[192.168.1.2]> Dear All I've been playing around with Mulberry as I have lots of problems with the address book in my old client (Turba on Horde). One slight problem with Mulberry is that it doesn't seem to differentiate between successfully sent messages and failed deliveries. If you have a folder chosen in which to save "sent" mail, it simply copies the drafts over, so it saves good and bad email and doesn't distinguish between the two. OK, someone's going to say "It gives you an error message when there's a problem with the smtp server" or something, but that relies on you remembering which messages had error messages attached to them. Is there a way of configuring Mulberry so that it indicates which messages have failed and which have been sent OK? Many thanks Cliff Mulberry 4.0.8, W xp From loobyloo at loobynet.co.uk Sun Mar 2 04:10:24 2008 From: loobyloo at loobynet.co.uk (Cliff Laine) Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 09:10:24 +0000 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Rejecting unsent messages - not simply copying them to a folder Message-ID: <61C99E9C1FF50DC823F4FD08@[192.168.1.2]> Dear All I've been playing around with Mulberry as I have lots of problems with the address book in my old client (Turba on Horde). One slight problem with Mulberry is that it doesn't seem to differentiate between successfully sent messages and failed deliveries. If you have a folder chosen in which to save "sent" mail, it simply copies the drafts over, so it saves good and bad email and doesn't distinguish between the two. OK, someone's going to say "It gives you an error message when there's a problem with the smtp server" or something, but that relies on you remembering which messages had error messages attached to them. Is there a way of configuring Mulberry so that it indicates which messages have failed and which have been sent OK? Many thanks Cliff Mulberry 4.0.8, W xp From robinson at svs.net Mon Mar 3 17:53:28 2008 From: robinson at svs.net (Francis Robinson) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:53:28 -0500 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Displaying HTML messages recieved? Message-ID: <2B3BDBA56D1CC151EA4FA521@9EC685DA62BCA5695D804880> Hi there: I have been using Mulberry since about Xmas and have been generally pleased with it. I am having trouble though getting it to properly display messages that have been sent to me in HTML. Am I missing an obvious setting? It just shows the code for the HTML but it is a different display than plain text. Just no pictures. I was going to look in the archives but didn't see a way to search them. Thanks -- "farmer" Francis Robinson Central Indiana, USA Robinson at svs.net From sm0oojzz+mulb at fastimap.com Mon Mar 3 18:22:31 2008 From: sm0oojzz+mulb at fastimap.com (John Thayer) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:22:31 -0500 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Displaying HTML messages recieved? In-Reply-To: <2B3BDBA56D1CC151EA4FA521@9EC685DA62BCA5695D804880> References: <2B3BDBA56D1CC151EA4FA521@9EC685DA62BCA5695D804880> Message-ID: <47CC41E7.16914.1C1B434@sm0oojzz+mulb.fastimap.com> On 3 Mar 2008 at 17:53, Francis Robinson wrote: > Hi there: > > I have been using Mulberry since about Xmas and have been generally > pleased with it. I am having trouble though getting it to properly display > messages that have been sent to me in HTML. Am I missing an obvious > setting? It just shows the code for the HTML but it is a different display > than plain text. Just no pictures. > I was going to look in the archives but didn't see a way to search them. > Unfortunately Mulberry doesn't render HTML. You have to open the html part in your browser. -- John From shiva at sewingwitch.com Tue Mar 4 06:23:49 2008 From: shiva at sewingwitch.com (Kenneth Porter) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 03:23:49 -0800 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Displaying HTML messages recieved? In-Reply-To: <47CC41E7.16914.1C1B434@sm0oojzz+mulb.fastimap.com> References: <2B3BDBA56D1CC151EA4FA521@9EC685DA62BCA5695D804880> <47CC41E7.16914.1C1B434@sm0oojzz+mulb.fastimap.com> Message-ID: --On Monday, March 03, 2008 6:22 PM -0500 John Thayer wrote: > Unfortunately Mulberry doesn't render HTML. You have to open the html > part in your browser. It renders it, just in a very primitive way. A full HTML rendering engine is quite complex and a security nightmare. Spammers take full advantage of its complexity to hide in plain site, using various rendering tricks to conceal spam phrases from a parser while displaying them to the user. (For example, use physical positioning of characters to render them in one order even though they occur in a different order in the file.) I don't need all the fancy features of HTML. Very simple markup on the order of what one sees in a web forum (eg. bold/italic/underline and inline images) would be fine with me. From sm0oojzz+mulb at fastimap.com Tue Mar 4 10:16:02 2008 From: sm0oojzz+mulb at fastimap.com (John Thayer) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 10:16:02 -0500 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Displaying HTML messages recieved? In-Reply-To: References: <47CC41E7.16914.1C1B434@sm0oojzz+mulb.fastimap.com> Message-ID: <20080304100828.AB29.5B3A249@fastimap.com> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 03:23:49 -0800 shiva at sewingwitch.com wrote: > --On Monday, March 03, 2008 6:22 PM -0500 John Thayer > wrote: > > > Unfortunately Mulberry doesn't render HTML. You have to open the html > > part in your browser. > > It renders it, just in a very primitive way. A full HTML rendering engine > is quite complex and a security nightmare. Spammers take full advantage of > its complexity to hide in plain site, using various rendering tricks to > conceal spam phrases from a parser while displaying them to the user. (For > example, use physical positioning of characters to render them in one order > even though they occur in a different order in the file.) > > I don't need all the fancy features of HTML. Very simple markup on the > order of what one sees in a web forum (eg. bold/italic/underline and inline > images) would be fine with me. > The original poster wished to view imbedded images in the messages. The only way to do that with Mulberry is to open them in a browser. I do not disagree that that could be dangerous if the message is from an unknown source, but if you trust the sender, it is far more convenient to render the html part in the MUA (where scripts and pics can be blocked as many other clients handle it) than opening in a browser. But Mulberry gives you no choice. -- John From srb at umich.edu Tue Mar 4 12:39:33 2008 From: srb at umich.edu (Steve Burling) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:39:33 -0500 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Displaying HTML messages recieved? In-Reply-To: <20080304100828.AB29.5B3A249@fastimap.com> References: <47CC41E7.16914.1C1B434@sm0oojzz+mulb.fastimap.com> <20080304100828.AB29.5B3A249@fastimap.com> Message-ID: --On March 4, 2008 10:16:02 AM -0500 John Thayer wrote: > The original poster wished to view imbedded images in the messages. The > only way to do that with Mulberry is to open them in a browser. I do not > disagree that that could be dangerous if the message is from an unknown > source, but if you trust the sender, it is far more convenient to render > the html part in the MUA (where scripts and pics can be blocked as many > other clients handle it) than opening in a browser. But Mulberry gives > you no choice. To which I reply: True. So if that's an important feature of an email client, then Mulberry may not be for you. Of course, it is open source, so you're free to add the feature... -- Steve Burling University of Michigan, ICPSR Voice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2910 From mailings at frederikseiffert.de Thu Mar 6 09:35:31 2008 From: mailings at frederikseiffert.de (Frederik Seiffert) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:35:31 +0100 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Very nasty repeatable OS-X bug In-Reply-To: <603E1CB198ABB5DD2C96975E@caldav.corp.apple.com> References: <679D20617264976291993EC7@Ximines.local> <603E1CB198ABB5DD2C96975E@caldav.corp.apple.com> Message-ID: <15B09F146C4DC88F775364F1@seaway> --On 12. Februar 2008 11:19:06 -0500 Cyrus Daboo wrote: >> 3. Occasionally message formatting gets really messed up when inserting >> text, with a block of lines being shifted over to the right with a >> variety of indents. Can recover by undoing the text insert. No crash. > > Can you create a ticket for the above too. If possible a set of steps to > reproduce this would be good with a screen shot of the mangled state, > thanks. I just had a similar issue (with hang/crash though) but didn't find a ticket for it, so I created with text and steps to reproduce. Frederik From suthers at hawaii.edu Mon Mar 10 06:14:53 2008 From: suthers at hawaii.edu (Daniel D. Suthers) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:14:53 -1000 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Moving Mulberry Preferences Message-ID: <56705522A5E425C4131EF1AE@Dr-Dan.local> Brief: Move of preferences to new installation is not working. Platform: OS X (from 10.4.11. to 10.5.2) Mulberry version: 4.0.8 (freshly installed on both platforms) In the past I have successfully moved my Mulberry preferences to a new installation. I believe I have done so by copying these two files: ~/Library/Preferences/com.cyrusoft.mulberry.plist ~/Library/Preferences/Mulberry Prefs This time, when I start 4.0.8 on the new machine it comes up with no preferences. Am I missing a file? Do preferences not port across OS versions? Any help appreciated, as I can't find this in the documentation. thanks, Dan _________________ Dan Suthers, http://lilt.ics.hawaii.edu/lilt/team/suthers.html 1-808-956-3890 (office) From Hagedorn at uni-koeln.de Mon Mar 10 07:16:08 2008 From: Hagedorn at uni-koeln.de (Sebastian Hagedorn) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:16:08 +0100 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Moving Mulberry Preferences In-Reply-To: <56705522A5E425C4131EF1AE@Dr-Dan.local> References: <56705522A5E425C4131EF1AE@Dr-Dan.local> Message-ID: <773FDBF6499A6E6A69F2EC14@tyrion.rrz.uni-koeln.de> Hi, --On 10. M?rz 2008 00:14:53 -1000 "Daniel D. Suthers" wrote: > Platform: OS X (from 10.4.11. to 10.5.2) > Mulberry version: 4.0.8 (freshly installed on both platforms) > > In the past I have successfully moved my Mulberry preferences to a new > installation. I believe I have done so by copying these two files: > > ~/Library/Preferences/com.cyrusoft.mulberry.plist > ~/Library/Preferences/Mulberry Prefs > > This time, when I start 4.0.8 on the new machine it comes up with no > preferences. Am I missing a file? Do preferences not port across OS > versions? Any help appreciated, as I can't find this in the documentation. I'm not sure why it's not working the way you're trying it, but I have a suggestion for a workaround. Use the "Open" button in the Preferences dialog to open your old preferences. Then click "Save Default". That should do it. -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Geb?ude 52), Zimmer 18.:. Zentrum f?r angewandte Informatik - Universit?tsweiter Service RRZK .:.Universit?t zu K?ln / Cologne University - ? +49-221-478-5587.:. .:.:.:.Skype: shagedorn.:.:.:. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 186 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.mulberrymail.com/pipermail/mulberry-discuss/attachments/20080310/d71e5341/attachment-0001.bin From suthers at hawaii.edu Mon Mar 10 07:28:32 2008 From: suthers at hawaii.edu (Daniel D. Suthers) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:28:32 -1000 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Moving Mulberry Preferences In-Reply-To: <773FDBF6499A6E6A69F2EC14@tyrion.rrz.uni-koeln.de> References: <56705522A5E425C4131EF1AE@Dr-Dan.local> <773FDBF6499A6E6A69F2EC14@tyrion.rrz.uni-koeln.de> Message-ID: Hi Sebastian, Thanks for the quick reply. Am chagrined that I did not notice the "open" button!! A nuance: when I click 'Open' the file dialog does not show either the com.* or the Mulberry Prefs file as selectable under "All Readable Documents" or "Mulberry preferences file". But it worked after I selected "All Documents. Thanks!!! --On March 10, 2008 12:16:08 PM +0100 Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > --On 10. M?rz 2008 00:14:53 -1000 "Daniel D. Suthers" > wrote: > >> Platform: OS X (from 10.4.11. to 10.5.2) >> Mulberry version: 4.0.8 (freshly installed on both platforms) >> >> In the past I have successfully moved my Mulberry preferences to >> a new installation. I believe I have done so by copying these >> two files: >> >> ~/Library/Preferences/com.cyrusoft.mulberry.plist >> ~/Library/Preferences/Mulberry Prefs >> >> This time, when I start 4.0.8 on the new machine it comes up >> with no preferences. Am I missing a file? Do preferences not >> port across OS versions? Any help appreciated, as I can't find >> this in the documentation. > > I'm not sure why it's not working the way you're trying it, but I > have a suggestion for a workaround. Use the "Open" button in the > Preferences dialog to open your old preferences. Then click "Save > Default". That should do it. _________________ Dan Suthers, http://lilt.ics.hawaii.edu/lilt/team/suthers.html Email can take a week or more to read: for urgent matters please call 1-808-956-3890 (office) or 1-808-741-5686 (mobile), or drop by my office in POST 309. From alex at alex.org.uk Mon Mar 10 14:00:46 2008 From: alex at alex.org.uk (Alex Bligh) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:00:46 +0000 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Remote preferences on a Mac Message-ID: I have used Migration Assistant to migrate my mulberry installation from one 10.5 OS-X installation (Mac 1) to another (Mac 2). I have my mulberry preferences stored remotely using IMSP. On Mac 1, launching Mulberry causes it to ask for the IMSP password, and everything then works from there. On Mac 2, Mulberry brings up the initial simple preferences box (all blank). I manually saved out my preferences to a local file on Mac 1, and copied them over. I then did an "Open" on Mac 2, loading the file. This all works fine, and I can use the preferences. I did "Save Default" (on local storage) and that appeared to do something. But whatever I do, I CANNOT get Mac 2 to use the remote preferences on startup (yes the box is checked). What have I missed here? Alex From daboo at mulberrymail.com Mon Mar 10 14:04:45 2008 From: daboo at mulberrymail.com (Cyrus Daboo) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:04:45 -0400 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Remote preferences on a Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3F9B76E14004771F9F4C948B@dhcp-1790.ietf71.ietf.org> Hi Alex, --On March 10, 2008 6:00:46 PM +0000 Alex Bligh wrote: > I have used Migration Assistant to migrate my mulberry installation from > one 10.5 OS-X installation (Mac 1) to another (Mac 2). > > I have my mulberry preferences stored remotely using IMSP. On Mac 1, > launching Mulberry causes it to ask for the IMSP password, and everything > then works from there. > > On Mac 2, Mulberry brings up the initial simple preferences box (all > blank). > I manually saved out my preferences to a local file on Mac 1, and copied > them over. I then did an "Open" on Mac 2, loading the file. This all works > fine, and I can use the preferences. I did "Save Default" (on local > storage) > and that appeared to do something. But whatever I do, I CANNOT get Mac 2 > to use the remote preferences on startup (yes the box is checked). What > have I missed here? When you startup right now, its starts with local preferences. If you go to the Preferences panel, is the 'Use Remote Preferences at Startup' option really on? If you then click the "Remote" button on the left side does it try to contact the IMSP server? -- Cyrus Daboo From alex at alex.org.uk Mon Mar 10 14:28:43 2008 From: alex at alex.org.uk (Alex Bligh) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:28:43 +0000 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Remote preferences on a Mac In-Reply-To: <3F9B76E14004771F9F4C948B@dhcp-1790.ietf71.ietf.org> References: <3F9B76E14004771F9F4C948B@dhcp-1790.ietf71.ietf.org> Message-ID: <8B4C4EC7C0A1EC34534B53EA@Ximines.local> Cyrus, --On 10 March 2008 14:04:45 -0400 Cyrus Daboo wrote: > When you startup right now, its starts with local preferences. If you go > to the Preferences panel, is the 'Use Remote Preferences at Startup' > option really on? If you then click the "Remote" button on the left side > does it try to contact the IMSP server? When I start up right now, the preferences are all blank. It has remembered nothing of me doing "Save Default". Thus there is not a "Use Remote Preferences at Startup" checkbox, because this is inside the tab for the IMSP option account, which doesn't (at this point) exist. If I then do a (local) Open on the prefs file I saved out on Mac 1, (this is before Mulberry starts properly in that there is no main window because I got the blank prefs dialog remember) then under the IMSP option account, in the "Options" pane, the pref marked "Use Remote Preferences At Startup" is ticked. However "Storage" on the right hand side is still set to Local. All the prefs look right, other than that. I then hit Save Default (which should, I think, save the default app prefs locally to use remote storage). I don't know where on the HD this is meant to be saving it, or I could check (or copy the prefs file over it). I then do OK and it asks me for the IMAP server password. This is odd because it's stored in the IMSP server. However, the rest of it loads OK, seeming with the right preferences. I then quit using ALT-Q, and reload, but the preferences have not stuck, i.e. they are still all blank. If, after doing an open on the local preferences, I change storage to "Remote", it asks me for the IMSP password (correctly I think). I then do "Open" to load in the remote preferences, and hit OK and everything loads in the normal way (no asking for my IMAP password). But again if I then quit the app and restart, the preferences are all gone (i.e. it isn't trying to load them remotely). Where is the app preference that tells it to use the remote preferences stored? I could then compare them between the 2 macs. Alex From daboo at mulberrymail.com Mon Mar 10 14:30:41 2008 From: daboo at mulberrymail.com (Cyrus Daboo) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:30:41 -0400 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Remote preferences on a Mac In-Reply-To: <8B4C4EC7C0A1EC34534B53EA@Ximines.local> References: <3F9B76E14004771F9F4C948B@dhcp-1790.ietf71.ietf.org> <8B4C4EC7C0A1EC34534B53EA@Ximines.local> Message-ID: Hi Alex, --On March 10, 2008 6:28:43 PM +0000 Alex Bligh wrote: > Where is the app preference that tells it to use the remote preferences > stored? I could then compare them between the 2 macs. Preferences are stored in ~/Library/Preferences. -- Cyrus Daboo From alex at alex.org.uk Mon Mar 10 14:40:42 2008 From: alex at alex.org.uk (Alex Bligh) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:40:42 +0000 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Remote preferences on a Mac In-Reply-To: References: <3F9B76E14004771F9F4C948B@dhcp-1790.ietf71.ietf.org> <8B4C4EC7C0A1EC34534B53EA@Ximines.local> Message-ID: <666F9DD2C5EF153E9CBA25B7@Ximines.local> Cyrus, --On 10 March 2008 14:30:41 -0400 Cyrus Daboo wrote: >> Where is the app preference that tells it to use the remote preferences >> stored? I could then compare them between the 2 macs. > > Preferences are stored in ~/Library/Preferences. OK it's weirder than I thought. Forget IMSP, that's a confusing detail. If I launch Mulberry, fill in a very basic set of details for an IMAP and SMTP server, do "Save Default", quit mulberry, and restart, it has forgotten the preferences. Doing an "ls -la Library/Preferences/com/*mul*' shows a file called com.mulberrymail.mulberry.plist. The above is not written to during the entire process (mtime unchanged). Renaming it out the way does not cause a new file to be created. So it would appear mulberry is not recording preferences at all! Alex From Hagedorn at uni-koeln.de Mon Mar 10 15:05:24 2008 From: Hagedorn at uni-koeln.de (Sebastian Hagedorn) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:05:24 +0100 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Remote preferences on a Mac In-Reply-To: <666F9DD2C5EF153E9CBA25B7@Ximines.local> References: <3F9B76E14004771F9F4C948B@dhcp-1790.ietf71.ietf.org> <8B4C4EC7C0A1EC34534B53EA@Ximines.local> <666F9DD2C5EF153E9CBA25B7@Ximines.local> Message-ID: -- Alex Bligh is rumored to have mumbled on 10. M?rz 2008 18:40:42 +0000 regarding Re: [Mulberry-discuss] Remote preferences on a Mac: > So it would appear mulberry is not recording preferences at all! I bet your permissions are screwed. Make sure that ~/Library/Preferences actually belongs to you ... -- Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Flachbau), Zi. 18, Robert-Koch-Str. 10 Zentrum f?r angewandte Informatik - Universit?tsweiter Service RRZK Universit?t zu K?ln / Cologne University - Tel. +49-221-478-5587 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Forget IMSP, that's a confusing detail. > > If I launch Mulberry, fill in a very basic set of details for an IMAP > and SMTP server, do "Save Default", quit mulberry, and restart, it > has forgotten the preferences. > > Doing an "ls -la Library/Preferences/com/*mul*' shows a file called > com.mulberrymail.mulberry.plist. > > The above is not written to during the entire process (mtime unchanged). > Renaming it out the way does not cause a new file to be created. > > So it would appear mulberry is not recording preferences at all! Mulberry writes its preferences to '~/Library/Preferences/Mulberry Prefs'. If that is not created then permissions must be messed up as Sebastian suggests. Check the existing permissions and also consider running the Disk Utility to repair permissions. -- Cyrus Daboo From suthers at hawaii.edu Mon Mar 10 21:29:26 2008 From: suthers at hawaii.edu (Daniel D. Suthers) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:29:26 -1000 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Remote preferences on a Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I forgot to mention in my reply to Sebastian last night that "Save Default" did not work on my target machine. After I had gotten the preferences with "Open"/All files, I had to use "Save As" and overwrite the Mlberry Prefs file that I had just opened to get it to work on the next startup. --On March 10, 2008 6:00:46 PM +0000 Alex Bligh wrote: > I have used Migration Assistant to migrate my mulberry > installation from > one 10.5 OS-X installation (Mac 1) to another (Mac 2). > > I have my mulberry preferences stored remotely using IMSP. On Mac > 1, > launching Mulberry causes it to ask for the IMSP password, and > everything > then works from there. > > On Mac 2, Mulberry brings up the initial simple preferences box > (all blank). > I manually saved out my preferences to a local file on Mac 1, and > copied > them over. I then did an "Open" on Mac 2, loading the file. This > all works > fine, and I can use the preferences. I did "Save Default" (on > local storage) > and that appeared to do something. But whatever I do, I CANNOT > get Mac 2 > to use the remote preferences on startup (yes the box is > checked). What > have I missed here? > > Alex > From Hagedorn at uni-koeln.de Tue Mar 11 02:58:20 2008 From: Hagedorn at uni-koeln.de (Sebastian Hagedorn) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:58:20 +0100 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Remote preferences on a Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <58091ABAF7DD0F86F91B8A89@G5> -- "Daniel D. Suthers" is rumored to have mumbled on 10. M?rz 2008 15:29:26 -1000 regarding Re: [Mulberry-discuss] Remote preferences on a Mac: > I forgot to mention in my reply to Sebastian last night that "Save > Default" did not work on my target machine. After I had gotten the > preferences with "Open"/All files, I had to use "Save As" and overwrite > the Mlberry Prefs file that I had just opened to get it to work on the > next startup. Good point, but I think that's different, though, because you were opening prefs that were already in place. The "normal" procedure would be to start with no prefs in Library/Preferences, to open the prefs from someplace else and to "Save Default" then. I think that's what Alex did and it usually works just fine. -- Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Flachbau), Zi. 18, Robert-Koch-Str. 10 Zentrum f?r angewandte Informatik - Universit?tsweiter Service RRZK Universit?t zu K?ln / Cologne University - Tel. +49-221-478-5587 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 194 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.mulberrymail.com/pipermail/mulberry-discuss/attachments/20080311/e378a77f/attachment.bin From alex at alex.org.uk Tue Mar 11 06:36:57 2008 From: alex at alex.org.uk (Alex Bligh) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:36:57 +0000 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Remote preferences on a Mac In-Reply-To: <7C4C7126165E4F258E75A763@dhcp-1790.ietf71.ietf.org> References: <3F9B76E14004771F9F4C948B@dhcp-1790.ietf71.ietf.org> <8B4C4EC7C0A1EC34534B53EA@Ximines.local> <666F9DD2C5EF153E9CBA25B7@Ximines.local> <7C4C7126165E4F258E75A763@dhcp-1790.ietf71.ietf.org> Message-ID: <7B6B7C40F7AA6608B76409D3@Ximines.local> Cyrus, --On 10 March 2008 20:35:48 -0400 Cyrus Daboo wrote: > Mulberry writes its preferences to '~/Library/Preferences/Mulberry > Prefs'. If that is not created then permissions must be messed up as > Sebastian suggests. Check the existing permissions and also consider > running the Disk Utility to repair permissions. OK I found that now. Permissions were fine but I ran Disk Utility anyway (it made no difference). I then deleted the file, and ran again, and used "Open" to load in the preferences saved out from the other machine, did Save Default, and quit. This caused a crash on quit. But lo-and-behold it now works. It's almost as if there is something machine dependent stored in the preferences file (which was copied from Mac 1) which was causing Mulberry's "Save Default" to fail. After all, I'm typing this on Mac 1 and it works fine! --On 10 March 2008 15:29:26 -1000 "Daniel D. Suthers" wrote: > I forgot to mention in my reply to Sebastian last night that "Save > Default" did not work on my target machine. After I had gotten the > preferences with "Open"/All files, I had to use "Save As" and overwrite > the Mlberry Prefs file that I had just opened to get it to work on the > next startup. That is *exactly* what I was seeing. --On 11 March 2008 07:58:20 +0100 Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > Good point, but I think that's different, though, because you were > opening prefs that were already in place. The "normal" procedure would be > to start with no prefs in Library/Preferences, to open the prefs from > someplace else and to "Save Default" then. I think that's what Alex did > and it usually works just fine. No, I already had a preference file in place (I didn't spot it to start off with as I got distracted by com.blah), because Migration Assistant copied it over from the other Mac. So I think it's the same bug. -- Alex From pwilson at apnic.net Thu Mar 13 02:21:52 2008 From: pwilson at apnic.net (Paul Wilson) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:21:52 +1000 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] How to select one of multiple certificates for outgoing mail Message-ID: I use an X509 certificate in Mulberry, and I keep my expired certificates so that I can still decrypt old emails. So I have multiple certs listed under "personal certificates". I have a new problem which is that when I sign email, Mulberry is selecting and using an expired cert instead of the current one. This didn't happen previously. I switched to a Mac a few weeks ago, and maybe the problems started at that time (I don't know because I don't sign emails very often). Is there some way that I can control which cert is used for signing? thanks, From mancini at ieee.org Fri Mar 14 06:21:49 2008 From: mancini at ieee.org (Enrico G. Mancini) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:21:49 +0100 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] How to select one of multiple certificates for outgoing mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <95BD4656A3009377DC9DCF35@[192.168.1.56]> Hi Paul, the same happens to me in Windows. Regards. --On gioved? 13 marzo 2008 16.21 +1000 Paul Wilson wrote: > I use an X509 certificate in Mulberry, and I keep my expired certificates so > that I can still decrypt old emails. So I have multiple certs listed under > "personal certificates". > > I have a new problem which is that when I sign email, Mulberry is selecting > and using an expired cert instead of the current one. This didn't happen > previously. I switched to a Mac a few weeks ago, and maybe the problems > started at that time (I don't know because I don't sign emails very often). > > Is there some way that I can control which cert is used for signing? > > thanks, > > > -- Enrico G. Mancini Via C.Reta 2/9 sc A 16162 Genova Phone: +39 010 7404969 Phone: +39 010 9648145 Mobile: +39 348 7904039 Mailto:mancini at ieee.org From sub at hoffart.de Fri Mar 14 08:55:49 2008 From: sub at hoffart.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6tz_Hoffart?=) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:55:49 +0100 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Mulberry source code for last 68k Mac version? Message-ID: <1idsou9.15vz2w8qksxicM%sub@hoffart.de> Hi! I'm providing nostalgia information about vintage 68k Macs, especially Compact Macs on a web page, including recommendations for specific applications. I alway recommended Mulberry as a capable IMAP client for years and announced it as commercial software for ~35 US$. Since cyrusoft.com isn't any longer I'm providing a local mirror of the unchanged Mulberry 2.2.1 archive (I hope that's okay). Now my questions :-) a) Is it still possible to buy a 68k Mulberry license for version 2.2.1 (or any other 68k Mac version)? b) If not - is it possible to release the source code of the last 68k Mac version? Or at least to give a valid license to the public? It is not that it's been hit by web readers a hundred times a day but this vintage Mac web site has about 8000 page visits a month and I'm still getting e-mails with questions about this or that software. I would be glad if you could provide the vintage Mac fan base with a solution in this case! Thank you very much in advance. Regards G?tz From pauls at utdallas.edu Fri Mar 14 13:53:27 2008 From: pauls at utdallas.edu (Paul Schmehl) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:53:27 -0500 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] How to select one of multiple certificates for outgoing mail In-Reply-To: <95BD4656A3009377DC9DCF35@[192.168.1.56]> References: <95BD4656A3009377DC9DCF35@[192.168.1.56]> Message-ID: Remove all your certs from Mulberry. Then import the valid cert *first*. Then import the rest. That will fix your problem. One of those quirks that's probably some sort of bug in the code. (You should be able to select the default cert, but it doesn't seem to work.) --On March 14, 2008 11:21:49 AM +0100 "Enrico G. Mancini" wrote: > Hi Paul, > the same happens to me in Windows. > > Regards. > > --On gioved? 13 marzo 2008 16.21 +1000 Paul Wilson > wrote: > >> I use an X509 certificate in Mulberry, and I keep my expired >> certificates so that I can still decrypt old emails. So I have >> multiple certs listed under "personal certificates". >> >> I have a new problem which is that when I sign email, Mulberry is >> selecting and using an expired cert instead of the current one. This >> didn't happen previously. I switched to a Mac a few weeks ago, and >> maybe the problems started at that time (I don't know because I don't >> sign emails very often). >> >> Is there some way that I can control which cert is used for signing? >> >> thanks, >> >> Paul Schmehl (pauls at utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From pwilson at apnic.net Fri Mar 14 23:03:32 2008 From: pwilson at apnic.net (Paul Wilson) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 13:03:32 +1000 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Very sad - loss of Mulberry address book :-( Message-ID: <5AD318C7FD37851378E8C715@as-paul-l-801.local> My entire address book has disappeared from Mulberry. This possibly coincided with the deletion of an account from Mulberry, around the same time. That was an account that I created recently, when I already had an address book full of useful addresses, and I have no idea why removing it would affect the address book. This is v4.0.8 on MacOS 10.4.11. It is the "Mac OS X" address book that has been emptied. I don't believe that I did anything on Macos that would have affected the address book either. Any ideas? Paul. From daboo at mulberrymail.com Fri Mar 14 23:09:49 2008 From: daboo at mulberrymail.com (Cyrus Daboo) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:09:49 -0400 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Very sad - loss of Mulberry address book :-( In-Reply-To: <5AD318C7FD37851378E8C715@as-paul-l-801.local> References: <5AD318C7FD37851378E8C715@as-paul-l-801.local> Message-ID: <206125458D3BC3845F61A4C3@dhcp-1790.ietf71.ietf.org> Hi Paul, --On March 15, 2008 1:03:32 PM +1000 Paul Wilson wrote: > My entire address book has disappeared from Mulberry. > > This possibly coincided with the deletion of an account from Mulberry, > around the same time. That was an account that I created recently, when > I already had an address book full of useful addresses, and I have no > idea why removing it would affect the address book. > > This is v4.0.8 on MacOS 10.4.11. It is the "Mac OS X" address book that > has been emptied. I don't believe that I did anything on Macos that > would have affected the address book either. > > Any ideas? If you open the AddressBook app from the Applications directory do you see any addresses in there? Note that "Mac OS X" address book in Mulberry is actually an interface to the AddressBook application data. There are others apps and tools that use that. The raw data is typically stored in "~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook". -- Cyrus Daboo From pwilson at apnic.net Fri Mar 14 23:30:50 2008 From: pwilson at apnic.net (Paul Wilson) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 13:30:50 +1000 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Very sad - loss of Mulberry address book :-( In-Reply-To: <206125458D3BC3845F61A4C3@dhcp-1790.ietf71.ietf.org> References: <5AD318C7FD37851378E8C715@as-paul-l-801.local> <206125458D3BC3845F61A4C3@dhcp-1790.ietf71.ietf.org> Message-ID: <3761E95EB4783FF3DDA124A4@as-paul-l-801.local> The address book app shows the same info. Just a few addresses automatically added since I lost the rest. thanks, Paul. --On 14 March 2008 11:09:49 PM -0400 Cyrus Daboo wrote: > Hi Paul, > > --On March 15, 2008 1:03:32 PM +1000 Paul Wilson > wrote: > >> My entire address book has disappeared from Mulberry. >> >> This possibly coincided with the deletion of an account from Mulberry, >> around the same time. That was an account that I created recently, when >> I already had an address book full of useful addresses, and I have no >> idea why removing it would affect the address book. >> >> This is v4.0.8 on MacOS 10.4.11. It is the "Mac OS X" address book that >> has been emptied. I don't believe that I did anything on Macos that >> would have affected the address book either. >> >> Any ideas? > > If you open the AddressBook app from the Applications directory do you > see any addresses in there? > > Note that "Mac OS X" address book in Mulberry is actually an interface to > the AddressBook application data. There are others apps and tools that > use that. The raw data is typically stored in "~/Library/Application > Support/AddressBook". > > -- > Cyrus Daboo > ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC http://www.apnic.net ph/fx +61 7 3858 3100/99 From davidbo at kth.se Sat Mar 15 05:42:45 2008 From: davidbo at kth.se (david) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 10:42:45 +0100 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Very sad - loss of Mulberry address book :-( In-Reply-To: <3761E95EB4783FF3DDA124A4@as-paul-l-801.local> References: <5AD318C7FD37851378E8C715@as-paul-l-801.local> <206125458D3BC3845F61A4C3@dhcp-1790.ietf71.ietf.org> <3761E95EB4783FF3DDA124A4@as-paul-l-801.local> Message-ID: --On 2008-03-15 13.30 +1000 Paul Wilson wrote: > The address book app shows the same info. Just a few addresses > automatically added since I lost the rest. There is a backup of the address book data in ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook/AddressBook.data.previous. If you are syncing your Address Book there might also be data in ~/Library/Application Support/SyncServices. (Cyrus, please change the list settings so that replies automatically are sent to the list, not to the poster) -- Visit the Mulberry IRC-channel irc://irc.freenode.net/mulberry From Hagedorn at uni-koeln.de Sat Mar 15 05:51:19 2008 From: Hagedorn at uni-koeln.de (Sebastian Hagedorn) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 10:51:19 +0100 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Very sad - loss of Mulberry address book :-( In-Reply-To: References: <5AD318C7FD37851378E8C715@as-paul-l-801.local> <206125458D3BC3845F61A4C3@dhcp-1790.ietf71.ietf.org> <3761E95EB4783FF3DDA124A4@as-paul-l-801.local> Message-ID: <82D203CFF08BCC3D44C3999B@MacBook-von-HG> --On 15. M?rz 2008 10:42:45 +0100 david wrote: > (Cyrus, please change the list settings so that replies automatically are > sent to the list, not to the poster) This comes up about once a year on every mailing list. I still hold with this view: -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Geb?ude 52), Zimmer 18.:. Zentrum f?r angewandte Informatik - Universit?tsweiter Service RRZK .:.Universit?t zu K?ln / Cologne University - Tel. +49-221-478-5587.:. .:.:.:.Skype: shagedorn.:.:.:. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 186 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.mulberrymail.com/pipermail/mulberry-discuss/attachments/20080315/a6735be8/attachment.bin From shiva at sewingwitch.com Sat Mar 15 07:37:55 2008 From: shiva at sewingwitch.com (Kenneth Porter) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 04:37:55 -0700 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Very sad - loss of Mulberry address book :-( In-Reply-To: <82D203CFF08BCC3D44C3999B@MacBook-von-HG> References: <5AD318C7FD37851378E8C715@as-paul-l-801.local> <206125458D3BC3845F61A4C3@dhcp-1790.ietf71.ietf.org> <3761E95EB4783FF3DDA124A4@as-paul-l-801.local> <82D203CFF08BCC3D44C3999B@MacBook-von-HG> Message-ID: --On Saturday, March 15, 2008 10:51 AM +0100 Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: >> (Cyrus, please change the list settings so that replies automatically are >> sent to the list, not to the poster) > > This comes up about once a year on every mailing list. I still hold with > this view: > > And Mulberry has the wonderful Reply To dialog that lets you pick where replies go to. It's one of those things no other MUA has and that I find essential, precisely because I'm on so many mailing lists. From davidbo at kth.se Sat Mar 15 17:42:03 2008 From: davidbo at kth.se (david) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:42:03 +0100 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Very sad - loss of Mulberry address book :-( In-Reply-To: <82D203CFF08BCC3D44C3999B@MacBook-von-HG> References: <5AD318C7FD37851378E8C715@as-paul-l-801.local> <206125458D3BC3845F61A4C3@dhcp-1790.ietf71.ietf.org> <3761E95EB4783FF3DDA124A4@as-paul-l-801.local> <82D203CFF08BCC3D44C3999B@MacBook-von-HG> Message-ID: <0D7B54F472C4F951D2E386B4@c80-216-42-243.bredband.comhem.se> --On 2008-03-15 10.51 +0100 Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > This comes up about once a year on every mailing list. I still hold with > this view: > > I subscribe to maybe 20 mailing lists, privately and in my job, and Mulberry is the only list that shows this behaviour. Furthermore, I can't even recall the last time I explicitly wanted to reply to a mail offlist (it has happened, maybe once a year or so but in those extremely rare occasions I can live with the manual work). I have even set up an extra personality in Mulberry to handle this list so the replies always are sent to the list. I am happy I don't need to do that for every list I subscribe to. -- Visit the Mulberry IRC-channel irc://irc.freenode.net/mulberry From davidbo at kth.se Sat Mar 15 17:46:23 2008 From: davidbo at kth.se (david) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:46:23 +0100 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Very sad - loss of Mulberry address book :-( In-Reply-To: References: <5AD318C7FD37851378E8C715@as-paul-l-801.local> <206125458D3BC3845F61A4C3@dhcp-1790.ietf71.ietf.org> <3761E95EB4783FF3DDA124A4@as-paul-l-801.local> <82D203CFF08BCC3D44C3999B@MacBook-von-HG> Message-ID: <4288E10C6D4381B0AC3B3518@c80-216-42-243.bredband.comhem.se> --On 2008-03-15 04.37 -0700 Kenneth Porter wrote: > And Mulberry has the wonderful Reply To dialog that lets you pick where > replies go to. It's one of those things no other MUA has and that I find > essential, precisely because I'm on so many mailing lists. Disablding this was one of the first changes of the default setup I did. Why should I go through an extra moment when the option this step offers is only applicable in less than 1% of the situations? Good interface design gives you a setup that works with as few obstacles as possible in the default situation (Linux developers should learn this). -- Visit the Mulberry IRC-channel irc://irc.freenode.net/mulberry From srb at umich.edu Sat Mar 15 18:28:01 2008 From: srb at umich.edu (Steve Burling) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:28:01 -0400 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Very sad - loss of Mulberry address book :-( In-Reply-To: <4288E10C6D4381B0AC3B3518@c80-216-42-243.bredband.comhem.se> References: <5AD318C7FD37851378E8C715@as-paul-l-801.local> <206125458D3BC3845F61A4C3@dhcp-1790.ietf71.ietf.org> <3761E95EB4783FF3DDA124A4@as-paul-l-801.local> <82D203CFF08BCC3D44C3999B@MacBook-von-HG> <4288E10C6D4381B0AC3B3518@c80-216-42-243.bredband.comhem.se> Message-ID: --On March 15, 2008 10:46:23 PM +0100 david wrote: > Disablding this was one of the first changes of the default setup I did. > Why should I go through an extra moment when the option this step offers > is only applicable in less than 1% of the situations? Good interface > design gives you a setup that works with as few obstacles as possible in > the default situation (Linux developers should learn this). To which I reply: The fact that you've disabled it generally (so have I) doesn't mean that you can't bring that dialog up when you want it (as I just did to reply to your message). -- Steve Burling University of Michigan, ICPSR Voice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2910 From shiva at sewingwitch.com Sun Mar 16 12:23:38 2008 From: shiva at sewingwitch.com (Kenneth Porter) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:23:38 -0700 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Very sad - loss of Mulberry address book :-( In-Reply-To: <4288E10C6D4381B0AC3B3518@c80-216-42-243.bredband.comhem.se> References: <5AD318C7FD37851378E8C715@as-paul-l-801.local> <206125458D3BC3845F61A4C3@dhcp-1790.ietf71.ietf.org> <3761E95EB4783FF3DDA124A4@as-paul-l-801.local> <82D203CFF08BCC3D44C3999B@MacBook-von-HG> <4288E10C6D4381B0AC3B3518@c80-216-42-243.bredband.comhem.se> Message-ID: --On Saturday, March 15, 2008 10:46 PM +0100 david wrote: > Why should I go through an extra moment when the option this step offers > is only applicable in less than 1% of the situations? Which suggests that the kind of mail you read is significantly different from what I read. I find that dialog incredibly useful, and miss it a lot when forced to use another MUA. From shiva at sewingwitch.com Sun Mar 16 12:27:55 2008 From: shiva at sewingwitch.com (Kenneth Porter) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:27:55 -0700 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] List reply settings (was: Very sad - loss of Mulberry address book :-() In-Reply-To: <0D7B54F472C4F951D2E386B4@c80-216-42-243.bredband.comhem.se> References: <5AD318C7FD37851378E8C715@as-paul-l-801.local> <206125458D3BC3845F61A4C3@dhcp-1790.ietf71.ietf.org> <3761E95EB4783FF3DDA124A4@as-paul-l-801.local> <82D203CFF08BCC3D44C3999B@MacBook-von-HG> <0D7B54F472C4F951D2E386B4@c80-216-42-243.bredband.comhem.se> Message-ID: <355273E7E258A7FA6A9ECDD9@[10.0.0.14]> --On Saturday, March 15, 2008 10:42 PM +0100 david wrote: > I subscribe to maybe 20 mailing lists, privately and in my job, and > Mulberry is the only list that shows this behaviour. I realized with my last post that I didn't have to change anything in the recipient list. The list sets "Reply-To" to the list, and "From" to the original poster. Apparently you've got Mulberry configured to use From instead of Reply-To. I subscribe to well over a hundred lists and the only time I have to meddle with the recipient list is if I'm replying to a CC to me. When replying to messages on the list, I generally uncheck the CC's to others, as I don't like receiving them myself. From IYESEYTVMXTN at spammotel.com Mon Mar 17 01:19:47 2008 From: IYESEYTVMXTN at spammotel.com (IYESEYTVMXTN at spammotel.com) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:19:47 -0400 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Returned mail: Transaction failed Message-ID: <1205768255.IYESEYTVMXTN@spammotel.com> From davidbo at kth.se Mon Mar 17 15:43:34 2008 From: davidbo at kth.se (david) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:43:34 +0100 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] List reply settings (was: Very sad - loss of Mulberry address book :-() In-Reply-To: <355273E7E258A7FA6A9ECDD9@[10.0.0.14]> References: <5AD318C7FD37851378E8C715@as-paul-l-801.local> <206125458D3BC3845F61A4C3@dhcp-1790.ietf71.ietf.org> <3761E95EB4783FF3DDA124A4@as-paul-l-801.local> <82D203CFF08BCC3D44C3999B@MacBook-von-HG> <0D7B54F472C4F951D2E386B4@c80-216-42-243.bredband.comhem.se> <355273E7E258A7FA6A9ECDD9@[10.0.0.14]> Message-ID: --On 2008-03-16 09.27 -0700 Kenneth Porter wrote: > I realized with my last post that I didn't have to change anything in the > recipient list. The list sets "Reply-To" to the list, and "From" to the > original poster. Apparently you've got Mulberry configured to use From > instead of Reply-To. Where is that setting? I can't find it. -- Visit the Mulberry IRC-channel irc://irc.freenode.net/mulberry From shiva at sewingwitch.com Mon Mar 17 22:23:23 2008 From: shiva at sewingwitch.com (Kenneth Porter) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:23:23 -0700 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] List reply settings In-Reply-To: References: <5AD318C7FD37851378E8C715@as-paul-l-801.local> <206125458D3BC3845F61A4C3@dhcp-1790.ietf71.ietf.org> <3761E95EB4783FF3DDA124A4@as-paul-l-801.local> <82D203CFF08BCC3D44C3999B@MacBook-von-HG> <0D7B54F472C4F951D2E386B4@c80-216-42-243.bredband.comhem.se> <355273E7E258A7FA6A9ECDD9@[10.0.0.14]> Message-ID: <37EFB15432FD41E975989158@[10.0.0.14]> --On Monday, March 17, 2008 8:43 PM +0100 david wrote: > --On 2008-03-16 09.27 -0700 Kenneth Porter wrote: > >> I realized with my last post that I didn't have to change anything in the >> recipient list. The list sets "Reply-To" to the list, and "From" to the >> original poster. Apparently you've got Mulberry configured to use From >> instead of Reply-To. > > Where is that setting? I can't find it. It looks like when you don't have the recipient dialog enabled, you still get a reply address prompt. You just don't get any of the other options. The list of addresses are in the order encountered in the sending message, not prioritized by type of header. From comes before Reply-to. You could register a feature request for prioritizing addresses in that dialog so that Reply-to is before From. When you use the more advanced dialog, the Reply-to is chosen and the others are available as options. I suppose for your use case, it would be best if you got the fancy dialog when there was more than one choice available, and no dialog if only one choice is possible. So you might want to register another feature request for that. From gessel at blackrosetech.com Sun Mar 23 02:28:03 2008 From: gessel at blackrosetech.com (David Gessel) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 02:28:03 -0400 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] how to archive sent gmail? Message-ID: <74DE8FC24DDF615A60A4D26A@[192.168.0.5]> gmail is a good mobile client. I can forward my mail to it easily enough using procmail, but I'd like to get my sent messages back onto my server... somehow. I've set up gmail's IMAP server option and have no trouble using Mulberry as an IMAP client to gmail, but I'm having no luck using Mulberry to copy messages from gmail's "sent mail" mailbox to the one on my server. If I drag copy I get an error (cannot complete request) but the message does seem to copy - though far too slowly and painfully to be useful. I tried to write a rule to do it, but it does not seem to execute either automatically or manually. If anyone has a work around (it'd be awfully convenient of gmail could trigger a forward request on an outgoing message or supported "always bcc:" but noooo....) I'd be happy to try it. -David From leica0000 at gmail.com Fri Mar 28 04:39:30 2008 From: leica0000 at gmail.com (Lisa Singh) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:39:30 +0000 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Newbie help - filtering both headers and body content Message-ID: <47ECAEC2.70708@gmail.com> Hello I've just downloaded Mulberry for the first time and I'm trying to set up filtering. It seems rather confusing. Basically I subscribe to a mailing list and I want delete posts from someone on the list who trolls a bit. With most IMAP clients this works fine when the incoming headers match (e.g. From) but I also want to delete any responses that quote this person. Without that the From filters are about 50% useless. I've tried setting up rules but that didn't seem to do anything. I tried using a search and matching and just get really random results I don't understand, including hiding all my sent mail. Does anyone have a simple "recipe" using either header + body filtering or "Entire Message" (which I presume does both) to do what I want? Thanks. From arcfide at mac.com Sat Mar 29 05:50:20 2008 From: arcfide at mac.com (Aaron Hsu) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 04:50:20 -0500 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Coordinating Calendars from iCal with Mulberry? Message-ID: <4F18496DE175B384215DEAAB@Illuminus.local> Is it possible for me to take published iCal calendars and edit/use them in Mulberry, and likewise publish and store Mulberry calendars to be used by people in iCal? Also, if using Apple's Calendar Server (which I assume is ical.mac.com), is it possible to store calendars securely so that they cannot be accessed by a third party? -- Aaron Hsu | Jabber: arcfide at jabber.org ``Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.'' - Frederic Bastiat -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 194 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.mulberrymail.com/pipermail/mulberry-discuss/attachments/20080329/7814899e/attachment.bin From f.fiedler at phys.uni-karlsruhe.de Mon Mar 31 06:55:31 2008 From: f.fiedler at phys.uni-karlsruhe.de (Prof. Dr. F. Fiedler) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:55:31 +0200 Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] copy to/move to button Message-ID: <40FBEB2547C5A0A50D81AAAA@[192.168.2.100]> Please help! in my current version of Mulberry 4.0.8 there exists the 'copy to' mailbox-button instesd of the 'move to' button as in the version 4.0.6. There seems to exist the possibility to interchange these two possibilities. I would prefer the 'move to' possibility as in previous versions of Mulberry, but I cannot find a way to change it from 'copy to' to Move to'. Does anybody know, how that can be done? Thanks. F. 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