From brian at reid.org  Mon Feb  1 00:17:50 2010
From: brian at reid.org (Brian Reid)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:17:50 -0800
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Update?
In-Reply-To: <63993F25D1C68EF750C5FF4A@steven-frysingers-ibook-g4.local>
References: <63993F25D1C68EF750C5FF4A@steven-frysingers-ibook-g4.local>
Message-ID: <70072CD4D0F6413823FA1D00@rutabook.waverley.reid.org>

My experience is that if an older UW IMAP server has two sessions open on the same mailbox and both of them are updating it, one of them will drop unexpectedly a few times an hour. I got in the habit of logging off Mulberry at home before I went to work, and this stopped happening to me.

When I installed the then-newest UW IMAP server about 2 years ago, this problem stopped happening. And since I stopped caring -- it was fixed -- I didn't take the time to see what change had made it stop doing this.


From frysinsp at jmu.edu  Mon Feb  1 02:13:51 2010
From: frysinsp at jmu.edu (Dr. Steven P. Frysinger)
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 02:13:51 -0500
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Update?
In-Reply-To: <70072CD4D0F6413823FA1D00@rutabook.waverley.reid.org>
References: <63993F25D1C68EF750C5FF4A@steven-frysingers-ibook-g4.local>
	<70072CD4D0F6413823FA1D00@rutabook.waverley.reid.org>
Message-ID: <6889345AEC460E62D6664C14@steven-frysingers-ibook-g4.local>

--On January 31, 2010 9:17:50 PM -0800 Brian Reid <brian at reid.org> wrote:

> My experience is that if an older UW IMAP server has two sessions open on
> the same mailbox and both of them are updating it, one of them will drop
> unexpectedly a few times an hour. I got in the habit of logging off
> Mulberry at home before I went to work, and this stopped happening to me.

Many years ago I noticed this too, and got in the habit of logging off - so 
unfortunately this isn't
the problem.

> When I installed the then-newest UW IMAP server about 2 years ago, this
> problem stopped happening. And since I stopped caring -- it was fixed --
> I didn't take the time to see what change had made it stop doing this.

Apparently it's a deficiency on the part of JMU's server, but there was a 
fix that could be done in
Mulberry. JMU is about to switch to a different server, so maybe I'll get 
lucky and the problem will clear itself up. On the other hand, they're 
moving to an Exchange server...

Steve


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From di at fh-wedel.de  Mon Feb  1 03:15:01 2010
From: di at fh-wedel.de (Martin Dietze)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 09:15:01 +0100
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Update?
In-Reply-To: <63993F25D1C68EF750C5FF4A@steven-frysingers-ibook-g4.local>
References: <63993F25D1C68EF750C5FF4A@steven-frysingers-ibook-g4.local>
Message-ID: <20100201081501.GC2346@fh-wedel.de>

On Sun, January 31, 2010, Dr. Steven P. Frysinger wrote:

> Did I gather correctly that somebody is working on an updated version of 
> Mulberry?

There has been some effort (see the -dev mailing list). There is
also a pretty stable 4.1 branch, for which different people
provided binaries (I have some Debian builds on my web site, see
URL below).

Unfortunately I have not seen much progress in the last weeks,
it seems like Cyrus has very little time for finalising the
branch, so for the time being you may have to rely on unofficial 
builds.

On the bug you mentioned I can't comment, maybe it's fixed,
maybe not. If there is a patch around and it has not found its
way into the repo, then you might post it to the -dev mailing
list; those of us running private branches may want to pick it
up and integrate it into their code.

Cheers,

M'bert

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HAS ANYBODY SEEN MY CAPS_LOCK KEY?  __  SHIFTY at AOL:COM

From paul.p.franz at gmail.com  Tue Feb  2 18:30:18 2010
From: paul.p.franz at gmail.com (Paul Franz)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 18:30:18 -0500
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Problem building Mulberry on the Mac
Message-ID: <246b04ae1002021530o51671001he794f2f8e14b6842@mail.gmail.com>

I was going to work on somethings that I don't like about Mulberry.
Like the way the selection changes after deleting a message when
viewing and Inbox using the Threaded view.

I was wondering if anybody else has successfully compiled Mulberry.

Paul Franz

From Hagedorn at uni-koeln.de  Wed Feb  3 01:21:01 2010
From: Hagedorn at uni-koeln.de (Sebastian Hagedorn)
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 07:21:01 +0100
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Problem building Mulberry on the Mac
In-Reply-To: <246b04ae1002021530o51671001he794f2f8e14b6842@mail.gmail.com>
References: <246b04ae1002021530o51671001he794f2f8e14b6842@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5EADA765EF12EC9D13040B82@G5.local>

-- Paul Franz <paul.p.franz at gmail.com> is rumored to have mumbled on 2. 
Februar 2010 18:30:18 -0500 regarding [Mulberry-discuss] Problem building 
Mulberry on the Mac:

> I was going to work on somethings that I don't like about Mulberry.
> Like the way the selection changes after deleting a message when
> viewing and Inbox using the Threaded view.
>
> I was wondering if anybody else has successfully compiled Mulberry.

Yes, but it's been a while ... check the archives for hints.
--
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Regionales Rechenzentrum (RRZK)
Universit?t zu K?ln / Cologne University - Tel. +49-221-478-5587
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From paul.p.franz at gmail.com  Wed Feb  3 07:00:58 2010
From: paul.p.franz at gmail.com (Paul Franz)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 07:00:58 -0500
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Problem building Mulberry on the Mac
In-Reply-To: <5EADA765EF12EC9D13040B82@G5.local>
References: <246b04ae1002021530o51671001he794f2f8e14b6842@mail.gmail.com>
	<5EADA765EF12EC9D13040B82@G5.local>
Message-ID: <246b04ae1002030400n23d4f475v2fbdd9f4dd9dc0ef@mail.gmail.com>

Ok. I will check. Though some of the plugins can't find the includes
like PGP and Kerberos and SMIME is having link issues.

BTW, how does one submit a patch? I have a few clean ups that allow
Mulberry to be compiled using GCC 4.2 (just adding some "class XXX" to
a few header files). Now, it doesn't currently link, BUT it s a minor
step forward.

Paul Franz

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Sebastian Hagedorn
<Hagedorn at uni-koeln.de> wrote:
> -- Paul Franz <paul.p.franz at gmail.com> is rumored to have mumbled on 2.
> Februar 2010 18:30:18 -0500 regarding [Mulberry-discuss] Problem building
> Mulberry on the Mac:
>
>> I was going to work on somethings that I don't like about Mulberry.
>> Like the way the selection changes after deleting a message when
>> viewing and Inbox using the Threaded view.
>>
>> I was wondering if anybody else has successfully compiled Mulberry.
>
> Yes, but it's been a while ... check the archives for hints.
> --
> Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Flachbau), Zi. 18, Robert-Koch-Str. 10
> Regionales Rechenzentrum (RRZK)
> Universit?t zu K?ln / Cologne University - Tel. +49-221-478-5587

From mailinglists at nierenschaden.de  Wed Feb  3 07:20:53 2010
From: mailinglists at nierenschaden.de (=?UTF-8?Q?Jens_D=C3=B6nhoff?=)
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:20:53 +0100
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Problem building Mulberry on the Mac
In-Reply-To: <246b04ae1002030400n23d4f475v2fbdd9f4dd9dc0ef@mail.gmail.com>
References: <246b04ae1002021530o51671001he794f2f8e14b6842@mail.gmail.com>
	<5EADA765EF12EC9D13040B82@G5.local>
	<246b04ae1002030400n23d4f475v2fbdd9f4dd9dc0ef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <38AB90610F42FFD119E2EB6D@[10.17.76.212]>

Hi Paul,

I would propose continuing any discussion regarding development 
(building, patching etc.) on the mulberry-dev-list.

At the moment the preferred way of submitting patches is via the (dev) 
mailinglist, but this is an interim solution for now.

What version of the sources are you trying to build from? There are 
different versions of the latest 4.1d1 branch, perhaps causing a little 
confusing. That's why Sebastian mentioned reading the archives, because 
some building problems (mostly for the Linux version, though) have 
already been fixed in a shared 4.1d1 branch, which is not mentioned in 
the wiki (I think).

Greetings,

Jens
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From paul.p.franz at gmail.com  Wed Feb  3 09:47:39 2010
From: paul.p.franz at gmail.com (Paul Franz)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 09:47:39 -0500
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Problem building Mulberry on the Mac
In-Reply-To: <38AB90610F42FFD119E2EB6D@10.17.76.212>
References: <246b04ae1002021530o51671001he794f2f8e14b6842@mail.gmail.com>
	<5EADA765EF12EC9D13040B82@G5.local>
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	<38AB90610F42FFD119E2EB6D@10.17.76.212>
Message-ID: <246b04ae1002030647s3878ded9n98866c9532f180d8@mail.gmail.com>

Oops!! Sorry. I thought I was replying to the dev list. (I posted to
this list and then realized the I should post to the dev list (dup'd
the post there), haven't got a response from them yet.) I will
discontinue this thread.

Paul Franz

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Jens D?nhoff
<mailinglists at nierenschaden.de> wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> I would propose continuing any discussion regarding development (building,
> patching etc.) on the mulberry-dev-list.
>
> At the moment the preferred way of submitting patches is via the (dev)
> mailinglist, but this is an interim solution for now.
>
> What version of the sources are you trying to build from? There are
> different versions of the latest 4.1d1 branch, perhaps causing a little
> confusing. That's why Sebastian mentioned reading the archives, because some
> building problems (mostly for the Linux version, though) have already been
> fixed in a shared 4.1d1 branch, which is not mentioned in the wiki (I
> think).
>
> Greetings,
>
> Jens

From gessel at blackrosetech.com  Fri Feb  5 11:34:33 2010
From: gessel at blackrosetech.com (David Gessel)
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 11:34:33 -0500
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Feature? Right click on link,
	get choice of browser to open in
Message-ID: <D71CECDC0381DDA68B70E2E2@410C30E69E457113BFD56209>

As browser options have proliferated, it is likely that one would have 
different favorite browsers for different tasks.  Or perhaps to segregate 
cookies or maintain different profiles on a single site each with automatic 
login.

It would be nice if one was able to create a list of helper app executables 
and right click on appropriate resources (say, URL) and then select the 
best handler from the task.

From paul.p.franz at gmail.com  Fri Feb  5 12:07:40 2010
From: paul.p.franz at gmail.com (Paul Franz)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 12:07:40 -0500
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Feature? Right click on link,
	get choice of 	browser to open in
In-Reply-To: <D71CECDC0381DDA68B70E2E2@410C30E69E457113BFD56209>
References: <D71CECDC0381DDA68B70E2E2@410C30E69E457113BFD56209>
Message-ID: <246b04ae1002050907q11f9d8cbkd2acdbd5cd665ec@mail.gmail.com>

If this is for the Mac, isn't there a 3rd party application that
handles this. (I forget the name off the top of the my head, will look
if you are a Mac user.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:34 AM, David Gessel <gessel at blackrosetech.com> wrote:
> As browser options have proliferated, it is likely that one would have
> different favorite browsers for different tasks. ?Or perhaps to segregate
> cookies or maintain different profiles on a single site each with automatic
> login.
>
> It would be nice if one was able to create a list of helper app executables
> and right click on appropriate resources (say, URL) and then select the best
> handler from the task.
>

From shiva at sewingwitch.com  Fri Feb  5 12:50:46 2010
From: shiva at sewingwitch.com (Kenneth Porter)
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 09:50:46 -0800
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Feature? Right click on link,
 get choice of browser to open in
In-Reply-To: <D71CECDC0381DDA68B70E2E2@410C30E69E457113BFD56209>
References: <D71CECDC0381DDA68B70E2E2@410C30E69E457113BFD56209>
Message-ID: <111F6347380BFCB4434F61A9@[10.170.7.6]>

--On Friday, February 05, 2010 11:34 AM -0500 David Gessel 
<gessel at blackrosetech.com> wrote:

> As browser options have proliferated, it is likely that one would have
> different favorite browsers for different tasks.  Or perhaps to segregate
> cookies or maintain different profiles on a single site each with
> automatic login.
>
> It would be nice if one was able to create a list of helper app
> executables and right click on appropriate resources (say, URL) and then
> select the best handler from the task.

This is generally considered the responsibility of the "desktop 
environment". (Sometimes confused with the "operating system"; with Windows 
the desktop is supplied as a part of the OS but in other systems it's a 
distinct component.) It's implemented by an entry in the registry for each 
protocol (the "http" part of the URI). The registry only has one slot for a 
program, so the only way to do it there is to provide a proxy launcher that 
asks you each time and then launches the real browser.


From gessel at blackrosetech.com  Fri Feb  5 17:10:10 2010
From: gessel at blackrosetech.com (David Gessel)
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:10:10 -0500
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Feature? Right click on link,
 get choice of  browser to open in
In-Reply-To: <246b04ae1002050907q11f9d8cbkd2acdbd5cd665ec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D71CECDC0381DDA68B70E2E2@410C30E69E457113BFD56209>
	<246b04ae1002050907q11f9d8cbkd2acdbd5cd665ec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B040ACCCD0F715CDEA5F03A3@410C30E69E457113BFD56209>

Alas... XP still.  I know, so obsolete, but so it goes.

--On Friday, February 05, 2010 12:07 PM -0500 Paul Franz 
<paul.p.franz at gmail.com> wrote:

> If this is for the Mac, isn't there a 3rd party application that
> handles this. (I forget the name off the top of the my head, will look
> if you are a Mac user.
>
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:34 AM, David Gessel <gessel at blackrosetech.com>
> wrote:
>> As browser options have proliferated, it is likely that one would have
>> different favorite browsers for different tasks. ?Or perhaps to
>> segregate cookies or maintain different profiles on a single site each
>> with automatic login.
>>
>> It would be nice if one was able to create a list of helper app
>> executables and right click on appropriate resources (say, URL) and then
>> select the best handler from the task.
>>
>
>



From paul.p.franz at gmail.com  Fri Feb  5 21:24:53 2010
From: paul.p.franz at gmail.com (Paul Franz)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 21:24:53 -0500
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Feature? Right click on link,
	get choice of 	browser to open in
In-Reply-To: <B040ACCCD0F715CDEA5F03A3@410C30E69E457113BFD56209>
References: <D71CECDC0381DDA68B70E2E2@410C30E69E457113BFD56209>
	<246b04ae1002050907q11f9d8cbkd2acdbd5cd665ec@mail.gmail.com>
	<B040ACCCD0F715CDEA5F03A3@410C30E69E457113BFD56209>
Message-ID: <246b04ae1002051824lee2d0d5vbbd70a83abdbbf0e@mail.gmail.com>

Hey, until Windows 7 there was no reason to upgrade.

Paul Franz

On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 5:10 PM, David Gessel <gessel at blackrosetech.com> wrote:
> Alas... XP still. ?I know, so obsolete, but so it goes.
>
> --On Friday, February 05, 2010 12:07 PM -0500 Paul Franz
> <paul.p.franz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If this is for the Mac, isn't there a 3rd party application that
>> handles this. (I forget the name off the top of the my head, will look
>> if you are a Mac user.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:34 AM, David Gessel <gessel at blackrosetech.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> As browser options have proliferated, it is likely that one would have
>>> different favorite browsers for different tasks. ?Or perhaps to
>>> segregate cookies or maintain different profiles on a single site each
>>> with automatic login.
>>>
>>> It would be nice if one was able to create a list of helper app
>>> executables and right click on appropriate resources (say, URL) and then
>>> select the best handler from the task.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

From klensin+mulberry at jck.com  Fri Feb  5 22:09:30 2010
From: klensin+mulberry at jck.com (John C Klensin)
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 22:09:30 -0500
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Feature? Right click on link,
 get  choice of browser to open in
In-Reply-To: <mailman.27.1265423476.65659.mulberry-discuss@lists.mulberrymail.com>
References: <mailman.27.1265423476.65659.mulberry-discuss@lists.mulberrymail.com>
Message-ID: <AD0AAF37C425407BB28AAE5D@PST.JCK.COM>



--On Friday, February 05, 2010 09:50:46 -0800, Kenneth Porter
<shiva at sewingwitch.com> wrote...
 
> --On Friday, February 05, 2010 11:34 AM -0500 David Gessel 
> <gessel at blackrosetech.com> wrote:
> 
>> As browser options have proliferated, it is likely that one
>> would have different favorite browsers for different tasks.
>> Or perhaps to segregate cookies or maintain different
>> profiles on a single site each with automatic login.
>...

> This is generally considered the responsibility of the
> "desktop  environment". (Sometimes confused with the
> "operating system"; with Windows  the desktop is supplied as a
> part of the OS but in other systems it's a  distinct
> component.) It's implemented by an entry in the registry for
> each  protocol (the "http" part of the URI). The registry only
> has one slot for a  program, so the only way to do it there is
> to provide a proxy launcher that  asks you each time and then
> launches the real browser.

I think I've discarded the code that does it more elegantly (I
now use Firefox with a plugin called "IE View" and let it sort
things out), but, under XP and earlier versions of Windows (I
disclaim any knowledge of Vista or Win7), if you can create a
small program or batch file that asks you to make a choice and
then branches, this is easily accomplished by going into Windows
Explorer, selecting the Tools tab and "Folder Options", then
"File Types", and setting the HTML and HTM entries to point to
your trick dispatcher.  This should take care of Mulberry as
well as everything else on your system -- giving you a choice
each time.   

In a perfect world, Mulberry would probably have a way to
override desktop settings for mail-specific purposes, but, as
far as I know, that is not possible through 4.0.8 at least.

    john


From gessel at blackrosetech.com  Fri Feb  5 23:30:09 2010
From: gessel at blackrosetech.com (David Gessel)
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:30:09 -0800
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Feature? Right click on link,
 get choice of 	browser to open in
In-Reply-To: <246b04ae1002051824lee2d0d5vbbd70a83abdbbf0e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D71CECDC0381DDA68B70E2E2@410C30E69E457113BFD56209>	
	<246b04ae1002050907q11f9d8cbkd2acdbd5cd665ec@mail.gmail.com>	
	<B040ACCCD0F715CDEA5F03A3@410C30E69E457113BFD56209>
	<246b04ae1002051824lee2d0d5vbbd70a83abdbbf0e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1B18658D9E8FE2A9FD064124@bernadinism>

A powerful disincentive even.  For me 7 is iffy, but I'm old and when I'm 
not keeping the kids off my lawn I do my best to restore Win 2000 behaviors 
where possible.


--On Friday, February 05, 2010 9:24 PM -0500 Paul Franz 
<paul.p.franz at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey, until Windows 7 there was no reason to upgrade.
>
> Paul Franz
>
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 5:10 PM, David Gessel <gessel at blackrosetech.com>
> wrote:
>> Alas... XP still. ?I know, so obsolete, but so it goes.
>>
>> --On Friday, February 05, 2010 12:07 PM -0500 Paul Franz
>> <paul.p.franz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If this is for the Mac, isn't there a 3rd party application that
>>> handles this. (I forget the name off the top of the my head, will look
>>> if you are a Mac user.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:34 AM, David Gessel <gessel at blackrosetech.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As browser options have proliferated, it is likely that one would have
>>>> different favorite browsers for different tasks. ?Or perhaps to
>>>> segregate cookies or maintain different profiles on a single site each
>>>> with automatic login.
>>>>
>>>> It would be nice if one was able to create a list of helper app
>>>> executables and right click on appropriate resources (say, URL) and
>>>> then select the best handler from the task.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>



From paul.p.franz at gmail.com  Sat Feb  6 00:13:25 2010
From: paul.p.franz at gmail.com (Paul Franz)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 00:13:25 -0500
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Feature? Right click on link,
	get choice of 	browser to open in
In-Reply-To: <1B18658D9E8FE2A9FD064124@bernadinism>
References: <D71CECDC0381DDA68B70E2E2@410C30E69E457113BFD56209>
	<246b04ae1002050907q11f9d8cbkd2acdbd5cd665ec@mail.gmail.com>
	<B040ACCCD0F715CDEA5F03A3@410C30E69E457113BFD56209>
	<246b04ae1002051824lee2d0d5vbbd70a83abdbbf0e@mail.gmail.com>
	<1B18658D9E8FE2A9FD064124@bernadinism>
Message-ID: <246b04ae1002052113o5191f002o3e75453351192429@mail.gmail.com>

Ah, undetstood.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:30 PM, David Gessel <gessel at blackrosetech.com> wrote:
> A powerful disincentive even. ?For me 7 is iffy, but I'm old and when I'm
> not keeping the kids off my lawn I do my best to restore Win 2000 behaviors
> where possible.
>
>
> --On Friday, February 05, 2010 9:24 PM -0500 Paul Franz
> <paul.p.franz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey, until Windows 7 there was no reason to upgrade.
>>
>> Paul Franz
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 5:10 PM, David Gessel <gessel at blackrosetech.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Alas... XP still. ?I know, so obsolete, but so it goes.
>>>
>>> --On Friday, February 05, 2010 12:07 PM -0500 Paul Franz
>>> <paul.p.franz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If this is for the Mac, isn't there a 3rd party application that
>>>> handles this. (I forget the name off the top of the my head, will look
>>>> if you are a Mac user.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:34 AM, David Gessel <gessel at blackrosetech.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> As browser options have proliferated, it is likely that one would have
>>>>> different favorite browsers for different tasks. ?Or perhaps to
>>>>> segregate cookies or maintain different profiles on a single site each
>>>>> with automatic login.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be nice if one was able to create a list of helper app
>>>>> executables and right click on appropriate resources (say, URL) and
>>>>> then select the best handler from the task.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>

From shiva at sewingwitch.com  Sat Feb  6 09:34:31 2010
From: shiva at sewingwitch.com (Kenneth Porter)
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 06:34:31 -0800
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Windows versions (was: Feature? Right click on
 link, get choice of browser to open in)
In-Reply-To: <1B18658D9E8FE2A9FD064124@bernadinism>
References: <D71CECDC0381DDA68B70E2E2@410C30E69E457113BFD56209>
	<246b04ae1002050907q11f9d8cbkd2acdbd5cd665ec@mail.gmail.com>
	<B040ACCCD0F715CDEA5F03A3@410C30E69E457113BFD56209>
	<246b04ae1002051824lee2d0d5vbbd70a83abdbbf0e@mail.gmail.com>
	<1B18658D9E8FE2A9FD064124@bernadinism>
Message-ID: <524A79689E333CEF384C6A2A@[10.170.7.6]>

--On Friday, February 05, 2010 8:30 PM -0800 David Gessel 
<gessel at blackrosetech.com> wrote:

> A powerful disincentive even.  For me 7 is iffy, but I'm old and when I'm
> not keeping the kids off my lawn I do my best to restore Win 2000
> behaviors where possible.

The later OS's are more secure, at the cost of massive memory usage for all 
the bling for the youngsters. I think the poor rap that Vista got was 
because a lot of people tried to run it on XP-capable machines that simply 
lacked the vast resources that Vista requires. XP had the same problem 
following 2k, as it was also proportionately a pig, and those of us old 
enough recall that 2k had the same issue following NT.

So when you do upgrade Windows, be prepared to upgrade the hardware to 
match. It's gonna suck on older hardware.



From frysinsp at jmu.edu  Sat Feb  6 09:54:48 2010
From: frysinsp at jmu.edu (Dr. Steven P. Frysinger)
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 09:54:48 -0500
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Feature? Right click on link,
 get choice of 	browser to open in
In-Reply-To: <246b04ae1002052113o5191f002o3e75453351192429@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D71CECDC0381DDA68B70E2E2@410C30E69E457113BFD56209>
	<246b04ae1002050907q11f9d8cbkd2acdbd5cd665ec@mail.gmail.com>
	<B040ACCCD0F715CDEA5F03A3@410C30E69E457113BFD56209>
	<246b04ae1002051824lee2d0d5vbbd70a83abdbbf0e@mail.gmail.com>
	<1B18658D9E8FE2A9FD064124@bernadinism>
	<246b04ae1002052113o5191f002o3e75453351192429@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DCB0AA8D7FB3FC6B79F0A23F@steven-frysingers-ibook-g4.local>

I solved that problem by switching to Mac OS when they adopted Unix. Being 
a Bell Labs vet it was like going home, and I've never looked back.

Steve

--On February 6, 2010 12:13:25 AM -0500 Paul Franz <paul.p.franz at gmail.com> 
wrote:

> Ah, undetstood.
>
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:30 PM, David Gessel <gessel at blackrosetech.com>
> wrote:
>> A powerful disincentive even. ?For me 7 is iffy, but I'm old and when
>> I'm not keeping the kids off my lawn I do my best to restore Win 2000
>> behaviors where possible.
>>
>>
>> --On Friday, February 05, 2010 9:24 PM -0500 Paul Franz
>> <paul.p.franz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey, until Windows 7 there was no reason to upgrade.
>>>
>>> Paul Franz
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 5:10 PM, David Gessel <gessel at blackrosetech.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Alas... XP still. ?I know, so obsolete, but so it goes.
>>>>
>>>> --On Friday, February 05, 2010 12:07 PM -0500 Paul Franz
>>>> <paul.p.franz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If this is for the Mac, isn't there a 3rd party application that
>>>>> handles this. (I forget the name off the top of the my head, will look
>>>>> if you are a Mac user.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:34 AM, David Gessel
>>>>> <gessel at blackrosetech.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As browser options have proliferated, it is likely that one would
>>>>>> have different favorite browsers for different tasks. ?Or perhaps to
>>>>>> segregate cookies or maintain different profiles on a single site
>>>>>> each with automatic login.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be nice if one was able to create a list of helper app
>>>>>> executables and right click on appropriate resources (say, URL) and
>>>>>> then select the best handler from the task.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>



********************************************
Steven P. Frysinger, Ph.D.

Professor,
  Integrated Science and Technology Program
  Computer Science Program
Director,
  Environmental Information Systems Program
  Environmental Management Program
  Center for Environment, Health and Safety
James Madison University
College of Integrated Science and Technology
ISAT/CS Room 309
800 South Main Street - MSC 4102
Harrisonburg, Virginia 22807
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Tel: 540/568-2710
Fax: 540/568-2768
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    Fakult?t f?r Ingenieurwissenschaften
Environmental Informatics Group (EIG)
Hochschule f?r Technik und Wirtschaft (HTW) des Saarlandes
Goebenstra?e 40
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Germany
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Tel:   +49 (0)681 876 5665
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From haqq42 at gmail.com  Sun Feb  7 04:34:25 2010
From: haqq42 at gmail.com (Abdul Haqq)
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:34:25 +1100
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Mulberry Setup
Message-ID: <4B6E8921.2050304@gmail.com>

Hi I am a Newbie to Mulberry so please bear with me I am just coming 
over from Thunderbird my reason for doing so is better spelling support 
and Mulberry defiantly has this.
I have set up 2 of my accounts for now. My problem I am having is with 
Identities.
I have set up the two identities and checked "Used Tied Identities with 
New Drafts", but it does not work, whatever mailbox I am in and press 
Drafts it always comes up with the default Identity. What may I be doing 
wrong? I have followed the directions in the Mulberry Reference Guide v4
Thanks

From F.von-Prondzynski at dcu.ie  Sun Feb  7 20:04:50 2010
From: F.von-Prondzynski at dcu.ie (Ferdinand von Prondzynski)
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:04:50 +0000
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Mulberry Setup
In-Reply-To: <4B6E8921.2050304@gmail.com>
References: <4B6E8921.2050304@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <67234DA52BEE5892D558412D@1C00C67AE8C08ACDFFB63A33>

Abdul, if you open Preferences and Identities and click on 'change', you 
can then specify which email address should be the default sender's address 
for any email with this identity. You also have the option of changing the 
'from' address in the drop down menu of every draft that you create.

-----------------------------------------------
Professor Ferdinand von Prondzynski
President of Dublin City University
Dublin 9 / IRELAND

+353-1-7005666
F.von-Prondzynski at dcu.ie

From huberb at earthlink.net  Sun Feb 14 11:47:09 2010
From: huberb at earthlink.net (Bill Huber)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:47:09 -0600
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Set up problem
Message-ID: <4B78290D.1020707@earthlink.net>

Hi,

I've downloaded and installed Mulberry on a Netbook I use for work.  I 
am not a sophisticated computer guy, but set up and install programs and 
accounts regularly.  I have an Earthlink account for personal mail, and 
have set it up on two other computers, one with Outlook Express, one 
with Mozilla Thunderbird, the former many years ago, the later maybe a 
year ago, without trouble.  With the Mulberry, I'm having some trouble 
getting the authentication right for both sending and receiving. 

To be able to receive messages, I must set the authentication to: No 
Security--prior to that, no luck sending.  With this setting, I receive 
the following message from Mulberry when I try to send:
_SMTP server 'RCPT' command reply: 550 Please configure your mail client 
to use authenication.  Account: SMPT

_I'm afraid none of the other selections seem to help with sending, and 
they do prevent receiving as well.  With the other clients, simply 
providing my login user name and password was all that's required, so, 
I'm not up to speed on what I need to do here.

I'd like to use the Mulberry client, but may have to give up if I can 
figure this out.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  On another 
topic, is it possible to Import from a Mozilla Address Book?  I know it 
wasn't in the list, but it is more current than my Outlook Address 
Book?  Any advice on that, assuming I can get past the first hurdle?

Thanks for any help or advice!

Bill
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From shiva at sewingwitch.com  Sun Feb 14 14:49:52 2010
From: shiva at sewingwitch.com (Kenneth Porter)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:49:52 -0800
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Set up problem
In-Reply-To: <4B78290D.1020707@earthlink.net>
References: <4B78290D.1020707@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CBCDFAD140657CC08DAFD455@[10.0.0.199]>

--On Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:47 AM -0600 Bill Huber 
<huberb at earthlink.net> wrote:

> _I'm afraid none of the other selections seem to help with sending, and
> they do prevent receiving as well.  With the other clients, simply
> providing my login user name and password was all that's required, so,
> I'm not up to speed on what I need to do here.

It's important to understand that with mail, unlike other services, there 
are *two* servers involved: IMAP (for receiving) and SMTP (for sending). 
They're configured separately, so you need to create separate Mulberry 
"accounts" for them.

Mulberry also has a completely separate notion of "identities", which 
represent your From line and a choice of send and receive accounts to use. 
At the time you compose mail, you can select which identity will be used to 
send it. You can "tie" identities to a folder hierarchy so that all folders 
under that folder use the same identity as the default for replies.

From ed_siff at unc.edu  Mon Feb 15 18:38:07 2010
From: ed_siff at unc.edu (Ed Siff)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:38:07 -0500
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Set up problem
In-Reply-To: <CBCDFAD140657CC08DAFD455@[10.0.0.199]>
References: <4B78290D.1020707@earthlink.net>
	<CBCDFAD140657CC08DAFD455@[10.0.0.199]>
Message-ID: <5B84BAB0F2D4D8163A784F09@[192.168.1.101]>

*** At precisely 2/14/2010 11:49 AM -0800, Kenneth Porter sent this:

> It's important to understand that with mail, unlike other services, there
> are *two* servers involved: IMAP (for receiving) and SMTP (for sending).
> They're configured separately, so you need to create separate Mulberry
> "accounts" for them.

I.E., click SMTP on the Accounts drop-down list, then fill in the server 
name and your ID.

Server:  smtpauth.earthlink.net:587

Put in your userid (full email address - userid at earthlink.net)  and choose 
to save it.  You don't have to put in the pw, but if you don't the first 
time (and only the first time) you send mail in each session you'll be 
prompted for it.

Ed