From shiva at sewingwitch.com  Sat Mar  6 15:18:06 2010
From: shiva at sewingwitch.com (Kenneth Porter)
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 12:18:06 -0800
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Angle brackets around links
Message-ID: <D7E6A06DE106047924252328@[10.170.7.6]>

Has anyone had problems sending links to recipients on AOL? I recently sent 
a link to a Yahoo mailing list and an AOL reader reported that she had to 
manually strip off the angle brackets or it wouldn't work.

Here's the link I sent:

<http://www.motivatedphotos.com/>

From korenman at umbc.edu  Sat Mar  6 16:04:20 2010
From: korenman at umbc.edu (Joan Korenman)
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:04:20 -0500
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Angle brackets around links
In-Reply-To: <D7E6A06DE106047924252328@[10.170.7.6]>
References: <D7E6A06DE106047924252328@[10.170.7.6]>
Message-ID: <C1FDBCB620135925227BE020@[192.168.1.102]>

--On Saturday, March 06, 2010 12:18 PM -0800 Kenneth Porter 
<shiva at sewingwitch.com> wrote:

> Here's the link I sent:
>
> <http://www.motivatedphotos.com/>

One other point: for some people who use web-based email clients, it used to be 
the case that angle brackets would render what was between the brackets 
invisible.  This wasn't true for all web-based email clients, but it was for 
some, since in HTML what is between angle brackets isn't seen.  I don't know 
whether this is still a problem.

	Joan

        Joan Korenman
        Professor Emerita of English
        Founder, Center for Women & Information Technology
        University of Maryland, Baltimore County
        Baltimore, MD 21250  USA
        korenman AT umbc.edu
        http://www.umbc.edu/wmst/

From korenman at umbc.edu  Sat Mar  6 16:01:01 2010
From: korenman at umbc.edu (Joan Korenman)
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:01:01 -0500
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Angle brackets around links
In-Reply-To: <D7E6A06DE106047924252328@[10.170.7.6]>
References: <D7E6A06DE106047924252328@[10.170.7.6]>
Message-ID: <D40A07E88B5E28B43C05602E@[192.168.1.102]>

--On Saturday, March 06, 2010 12:18 PM -0800 Kenneth Porter 
<shiva at sewingwitch.com> wrote:

> Has anyone had problems sending links to recipients on AOL? I recently sent a
> link to a Yahoo mailing list and an AOL reader reported that she had to
> manually strip off the angle brackets or it wouldn't work.
>
> Here's the link I sent:
>
> <http://www.motivatedphotos.com/>

In the past, I've had a lot of trouble sending links to AOL recipients.  I 
don't know whether it's still true, but in the past they couldn't deal with a 
plain link with or without angle brackets.  They had to have something like 
this:
<a href="http://www.motivatedphotos.com">http://www.motivatedphotos.com</a> in 
order to have the link be live.  I still see some places give a link and then 
give it again in this more extended format "for AOL recipients," so perhaps 
it's still the case.

	Joan

        Joan Korenman
        Professor Emerita of English
        Founder, Center for Women & Information Technology
        University of Maryland, Baltimore County
        Baltimore, MD 21250  USA
        korenman AT umbc.edu
        http://www.umbc.edu/wmst/



From shiva at sewingwitch.com  Sat Mar  6 16:34:42 2010
From: shiva at sewingwitch.com (Kenneth Porter)
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:34:42 -0800
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Angle brackets around links
In-Reply-To: <C1FDBCB620135925227BE020@[192.168.1.102]>
References: <D7E6A06DE106047924252328@[10.170.7.6]>
	<C1FDBCB620135925227BE020@[192.168.1.102]>
Message-ID: <440F47F1D47EC6E40A8F3CD8@[10.170.7.6]>

--On Saturday, March 06, 2010 4:04 PM -0500 Joan Korenman 
<korenman at umbc.edu> wrote:

> One other point: for some people who use web-based email clients, it used
> to be the case that angle brackets would render what was between the
> brackets invisible.  This wasn't true for all web-based email clients,
> but it was for some, since in HTML what is between angle brackets isn't
> seen.  I don't know whether this is still a problem.

I can see how a poorly-coded web client would do that. It would also be a 
security and spam nightmare, since it "trusts" the HTML one is including in 
the email.

I do recall a problem I had in the distant past with Yahoo's web-based 
client. I sent a test message to my own Yahoo account and found its reader 
was including the trailing angle bracket in the URL, making it invalid to 
the site that sent it. (It was the registration confirmation email for a 
web forum.) I wasn't able to find a problem report page anywhere at Yahoo 
where I could complain about it. I ended up just disallowing signups from 
Yahoo, and advised interested parties to go get a Gmail account, instead.


From pwilson at apnic.net  Sat Mar  6 21:38:02 2010
From: pwilson at apnic.net (Paul Wilson)
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:38:02 +1000
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Angle brackets around links
In-Reply-To: <D7E6A06DE106047924252328@[10.170.7.6]>
References: <D7E6A06DE106047924252328@[10.170.7.6]>
Message-ID: <AA626D3095F8D10EEA7F41F7@as-paul-l-1813.local>


This feature (automatically adding < and > when you paste a link) is really 
quite clever, but I would love to be able to turn it off.  :-)


--On 6 March 2010 12:18:06 PM -0800 Kenneth Porter <shiva at sewingwitch.com> 
wrote:

> Has anyone had problems sending links to recipients on AOL? I recently
> sent a link to a Yahoo mailing list and an AOL reader reported that she
> had to manually strip off the angle brackets or it wouldn't work.
>
> Here's the link I sent:
>
> <http://www.motivatedphotos.com/>



________________________________________________________________________
Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC                      <dg at apnic.net>
http://www.apnic.net                            ph/fx +61 7 3858 3100/99


From pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com  Sat Mar  6 22:12:25 2010
From: pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com (Paul Schmehl)
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 21:12:25 -0600
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Angle brackets around links
In-Reply-To: <AA626D3095F8D10EEA7F41F7@as-paul-l-1813.local>
References: <D7E6A06DE106047924252328@[10.170.7.6]>
	<AA626D3095F8D10EEA7F41F7@as-paul-l-1813.local>
Message-ID: <7D74DC5DA45BE2BD924CD437@Paul-Schmehls-MacBook-Pro.local>

Then do.  Preferences/Outgoing/Options/Add URL Delimiters when pasting 
text.

--On March 7, 2010 12:38:02 PM +1000 Paul Wilson <pwilson at apnic.net> wrote:

>
> This feature (automatically adding < and > when you paste a link) is
> really quite clever, but I would love to be able to turn it off.  :-)
>
>
> --On 6 March 2010 12:18:06 PM -0800 Kenneth Porter
> <shiva at sewingwitch.com> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone had problems sending links to recipients on AOL? I recently
>> sent a link to a Yahoo mailing list and an AOL reader reported that she
>> had to manually strip off the angle brackets or it wouldn't work.
>>
>> Here's the link I sent:
>>
>> <http://www.motivatedphotos.com/>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC                      <dg at apnic.net>
> http://www.apnic.net                            ph/fx +61 7 3858 3100/99
>
>





From pwilson at apnic.net  Sat Mar  6 23:12:46 2010
From: pwilson at apnic.net (Paul Wilson)
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:12:46 +1000
Subject: [Mulberry-discuss] Angle brackets around links
In-Reply-To: <7D74DC5DA45BE2BD924CD437@Paul-Schmehls-MacBook-Pro.local>
References: <D7E6A06DE106047924252328@[10.170.7.6]>
	<AA626D3095F8D10EEA7F41F7@as-paul-l-1813.local>
	<7D74DC5DA45BE2BD924CD437@Paul-Schmehls-MacBook-Pro.local>
Message-ID: <BF14C47804ABCDB05D7D7849@as-paul-l-1813.local>

brilliant!  thanks.

--On 6 March 2010 9:12:25 PM -0600 Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com> 
wrote:

> Then do.  Preferences/Outgoing/Options/Add URL Delimiters when pasting
> text.
>
> --On March 7, 2010 12:38:02 PM +1000 Paul Wilson <pwilson at apnic.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> This feature (automatically adding < and > when you paste a link) is
>> really quite clever, but I would love to be able to turn it off.  :-)
>>
>>
>> --On 6 March 2010 12:18:06 PM -0800 Kenneth Porter
>> <shiva at sewingwitch.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone had problems sending links to recipients on AOL? I recently
>>> sent a link to a Yahoo mailing list and an AOL reader reported that she
>>> had to manually strip off the angle brackets or it wouldn't work.
>>>
>>> Here's the link I sent:
>>>
>>> <http://www.motivatedphotos.com/>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>> Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC                      <dg at apnic.net>
>> http://www.apnic.net                            ph/fx +61 7 3858 3100/99
>>
>>
>
>
>
>



________________________________________________________________________
Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC                      <dg at apnic.net>
http://www.apnic.net                            ph/fx +61 7 3858 3100/99